Islam In Bible Prophecy

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  1. Truth Files

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    Psalms
    83:1 Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.

    83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

    83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

    83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

    83:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

    83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

    83:7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;

    83:8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

    There is an eerie resemblance of the teachings, practices, and ambitions of fundamental Islam to the Biblical descriptions of events recorded in visions of the prophets for the time of the end.

    Careful study and observation of today's Islamic presence in the Middle East and the rest of the world should be essential for the student of Bible prophecy. [Psalms 83; Ezekiel 38,39; Micah 5]

    There are over one and one half billion adherents of the religion on earth today and this number is growing. Two hundred and eighty million currently reside in the various countries that directly surround the nation of Israel.

    This monotheistic religion of Mohammed's was developed around 600 A.D. and has its foundational beliefs rooted in the early generations of Abraham's offspring set in contrast against the lineage of Isaac and Jacob.

    Isaac and Ishmael, Jacob and Esau, and Israel and the Arabs represent this divisive theme set by God which extends from its beginnings to the present day.

    The Lord has purposely separated the two lines of Abraham's descendants and has favored Israel with His Covenants regarding the land of Israel and His future restored worldwide kingdom on the earth.

    Islam's teaching attempts to build on the opposite position, namely that the same promises should be applied to Arabic and other adherents of Islam's national status rather than the nation of Israel.

    It appears to me that Mohammed's objectives were to develop theology which directly contradicts the Bible. His claim was that the Old Testament was corrupted by Israel and that he was given additional revelation to correct the errors.

    The concept is extended further to reveal that Israelites are actually the descendants of monkeys and pigs because of a curse placed on them by Allah for corrupting the Bible.

    This type of reasoning exposes Mohammed's obvious lack of intelligence and insight which would place his claim to be a messenger from God in question.

    Israel has failed to meet the Lord's plans and objectives in many ways, but He has never referred to them or any other humans as monkeys and pigs.

    I might add that there have been and are apostate "christian" organizations who also refute Israel's national position as the Lord's covenant nation and related promises. They claim the same promises given to Israel for themselves and fail to see the distinction between national Israel and the church given as a continuing theme throughout the scriptures.

    The church consisting of both Israelite and Gentile believers is based upon matters of salvation and not national identity. The Lord distinguishes between Israel and the nations on all other aspects of His intents in all related scripture. [Jeremiah 30; Ezekiel 36; 37; 38; 39; Romans 11]

    A study of the Koran and many christian traditions reveal that the claims of the adherents not only oppose the Word of the Lord, they also contain many contradictions and a great deal of confusion themselves.

    Islam presents a direct refutation of the basic foundational beliefs of true christianity including the belief in God's Son Jesus Christ.

    God does not have a Son according to the Koran and there are many other fundamental Biblical truths that Islam either denies, ignores, or attempts to change like the need for personal salvation through Jesus Christ.

    The coming of the "lawless one" the beast, little horn, will incorporate an attempt to openly change the "times and the laws" of the biblically based festivals, seasons, and legalisms of orthodox Judaism .... and all scriptural truth regarding the past and present position of the Israelite nation.

    The purpose will be to eradicate anything connecting the nation of Israel with the past, present, or future. This action will also include claiming the promises contained in the covenants that the Lord has with Israel for the religious cult of the beast.

    The adherents of Islam have in the past and continue to do this very thing today and this will be the backdrop of satan's strategy at the time of the end during the coming tribulation period. [Psalms 83; Daniel 7:25; 8:9-25]

    Apostate christian traditions including various christian cults have replaced basic fundamental biblical truths with their own replacement theologies as well. They often focus their adherents on very specific exclusive requirements for acceptance by the group.

    Their doctrines include salvation by works and keeping legalisms which are unsupported by scripture. The salvation of the believer is based exclusively upon the Lord's grace and by faith.

    They claim special revelation and traditional teachings of their leaders and add them to the basic tenets of the scriptures. Much harm has been committed by those who have acquired the name of christianity for their own motivations and purposes.
     
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    Islam in Bible prophecy continued .....

    Another example is the use of preterism which erradicates future unfulfilled prophecy and claims that all was fulfilled in the past [70 A.D.] and that the Lord is finished with His nation of Israel related to future involvement

    The suggestion is also made that the Lord's second advent was in 70 A.D. .... these are the scoffers of the last days [2Peter 3:1-8]

    This off coarse 'christian" theology does the same thing that Islam does with regard to Israel, but just in a different way; both come from the same source of satanic suggestion

    The Lord spoke about them when He said that they would come in His name and would deceive many. [Matthew 25:5]

    This response to questions asked about His second coming is given first and foremost before any of the other significant events or signs are given.

    Deception has existed within professing christianity since the first century and He gives specific warning about it before He continues with the rest of His response regarding the time of the end.

    Mohammed was a descendant of Ishmael and a self-appointed prophet who was raised in the deserts of Arabia. His family were pagans and they worshiped a pantheon of false gods, one of which was Allah.

    This god is the moon-god that was worshiped by the ancient Middle Eastern cultures of the Sumerians, Akkadians, Assyrians, and neo-Babylonians.

    The pre-Islamic Arabians worshiped this same god whose symbol is the crescent moon and this fact has been verified by recent archeological discoveries.

    Mohammed claimed he was visited by Gabriel who is the Lord's angel assigned to reveal truths to the prophets of Israel.

    Gabriel supposedly gave Mohammed the inspiration to write the Koran and to worship the one and only true god Allah.

    My opinion is that Mohammed contrived all of this himself or was actually visited by satanic spirits, possibly by satan himself.

    If one believes the Bible, then Allah is a fictitious god who does not exist. There is only one true God, the God of the Bible. He has revealed Himself in the form of His Son Jesus Christ.

    All other "gods" are imaginary concepts contrived by humans which can be covers for satanic influence and deception.

    In any case it appears to me that satan's foot prints are all over this religion of Islam considering the overt beliefs and behavior of its adherents.

    Satan's primary objectives are revealed in scripture and include placing himself above the Lord, denying the deity of Jesus Christ, destroying His covenant people Israel, and deceiving and or eliminating all humans who are trusting in Him for eternal life.

    The adherents of Islam are influenced to please their impersonal "god" by eliminating all humans (infidels) who will not submit to Allah.

    One method of killing christian martyrs who will not worship the beast during the tribulation period will be by beheading.

    This practice is prescribed by the teachings of Islam today and is currently being carried out by radical Islamic terrorists in the Middle East.

    Are these radical elements truly believers of the Islamic faith ? I think that they are. This would be difficult to prove, but I get the impression that they have a definite reliance and belief beyond ordinary human limitations.

    Their ultimate ambition is to obtain world domination which they believe will require the intervention of their god Allah on their behalf.

    Do the so called moderate members of Islam have the same beliefs and ambitions ? I believe they do. The tenets of the religion require ultimate victory for the followers of Allah and they could not be truly Islamic if any of these beliefs were not adhered to.

    Is it possible that Islam could be the cult worship of the beast of Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1 and 17:8 ? I think this is the case.

    Islamic writings predict the coming of the "Mahdi", the 12th Imam who will conquer the world for Allah and his followers. This could very well be a setup for man of lawlessness .... the biblical "antichrist". [2Thessalonians 2]

    The Bible is the only trusted authority regarding future predictions by its prophets. The visions recorded in scripture are always 100% accurate by evidence of past events and will be the same for events that are still yet future.

    How could the Islamic adherents of the Middle East become a dominating world force given the existence of today's greater nations with superior military capabilities?

    The trump card for them will be the coming of the lawless one, the beast .... Abaddon-Apollyon in the human little horn king of the northern Middle East who will possess extraordinary powers and abilities far beyond those of ordinary mortals. [Daniel 7:7; 8:9; 8:23; 11:36] [2Thessalonians 2:1] [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 17:8]
     
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    Good stuff, Truth Files! :thumbs:
     
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    Thanks for the response Fred's Wife

    Hope this information is helpful for you
     
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    ISLAM: A DAUGHTER OF THE HARLOT

    'The Jewish Foundation of Islam' (1933) by Charles Cutler Torrey
    http://www.truthnet.org/islam/Jewish/


    Excerpts:

    “Unquestionably the first impression gained by a reader of the quran Koran is that Muhammad Mohammed had received the material of his new faith and practice mainly from the Jews of the Hijaz. On almost every page are encountered either episodes of Hebrew history, or familiar Jewish legends, or details of rabbinical law or usage, or arguments which say in effect that Islam is the faith of Abraham and Moses.....”

    “These facts, if taken by themselves, would obviously indicate that the Arabian prophet's religious education had been thoroughly Jewish.....”

    “'This quran quranic Koranic teaching is Gnostic,' or 'This is Manichaean'-in our dense ignorance of the type of Christianity that was known in the Hijaz, and especially, the type of Judaism that was actually present in Mekka in muhammad Mohammed's time, and from which we know him to have derived such a very large proportion of what we find in the quran Koran......”

    “....there is no clear evidence that muhammad Mohammed had ever received instruction from a Christian teacher, while many facts testify emphatically to the contrary; and that, on the other hand, the evidence that he gained his Christian material either from Jews in Mekka, or from what was well known and handed about in the Arabian cities, is clear, consistent, and convincing....”

    “...The fact of the Israelite city of Khaibar, "the richest city of the Hijaz," is one very significant item among many. Such a civilization is not produced in a short time. Native Arab tribes "converted" in the manner supposed would have been certain, we should imagine, to welcome and accept the prophet of their own number who promised them a truly Arabian continuation of Judaism adapted to their own special needs, while based squarely on the Hebrew scriptures. But the Jews of Mekka, Medina, and the rest of the Hijaz knew better, and would not yield an inch....I have thus far been speaking mainly of the great number of Arabs professing the Israelite faith, in muhammad Mohammed's time.....”

    “....The quran Koran repeatedly speaks of "the children of Israel" as the most favored people on earth-up to the time of Islam; and in addressing them the prophet always reminds them that they know their scriptures.....”

    “Far more important, however, is the testimony contained in the quran Koran. The Israelite tribes with their rabbis, their books, sacred and secular, their community of faith and action, and their living contact with the past, are there; they are no phantom. All through the quran Koran there is evidence of a Jewish culture, which muhammad Mohammed greatly admired, and of Jewish learning, which he very imperfectly assimilated.”
     
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    The idea that Israel found Islam is a total sham .... no biblical support for it

    A ruse of those who hold historical replacement theologies and anti-semitic positioning

    Here are a few:

    The RCC, SDA, Preterism in any form, MSOG latter rain movements, reformation, dominion theologies, conspiracy theories, and liberal protestant
     
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    and upon her forehead a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Rev 17:5

    ...and Islam is not the only harlot that ol' whore has birthed.

    I'll tell you what the sham is; the notion that physical Israel has any sort of preeminence over the Church of God:

    Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the concision: for we are the circumcision, who worship by the Spirit of God, and glory in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh: Phillipians 3:2,3

    I predict (yea, I'm just as much of a prophet as you are) there'll come a time when folks become sick of hearing that accusation.
     
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    Hear, hear. Very good observation, Ky. Trut Files needs to know that, if he is not being answered, it is not because we are "pondering and reflecting", but passing by to something more worthwhile.
     
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    "it is not because we are "pondering and reflecting", but passing by to something more worthwhile."

    ..... to the preterist Bible I will assume

    One stripped of most of the unfulfilled prophetic visions of the Lord's Authorship

    More worth while? ..... someone is lying to you

    Better look behind the cutrain
     
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    Truth files reads my mind

    LOL, Truth files must be reading my mind—I was just thinking that his prophetic insights could just as easily come from the Wizard of Oz as from the bible.

    I’m sure Frank Baum appreciates your keeping his novel alive.

    “Your understanding of the inspiration of Scripture is utterly astounding!” Mel

    Why thank you Mel!
     
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    Truth files does more damage to dispensationalism in one post than Preterists do to it in a month of counter posting.

    Post on Truth files.

    And watch out for falling houses!

    “Your understanding of the inspiration of Scripture is utterly astounding!” Mel

    Why thank you Mel!
     

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