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  1. Crabtownboy

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    FYI, Paul Douglas is a well known meteorologist in Minnesota and an evangelical Christian that has written a book aimed at Christians skeptical of climate change.

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    Makes his words even more important. Far too many in our society do not want to hear truth that is not to their liking.
     
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    But its how that data is interpreted.
     
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    If it is good science it is interpreted as the truth it points to. That may be a most uncomfortable finding, but not everything in life is the way we want.
     
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    I could say that the temperature outside is 20 degrees - but it is very warm outside.
     
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    Social media is killing critical thinking. Facebook wants clicks and likes, so it's gonna send you more stories that they think you will click and like, and less of what you don't want to hear.

    But it's good that we can all come to the baptistboard to get a time out from our echo chambers. :Biggrin

    (And that last line in the image makes me think of all of the election polls. ;) )
     
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    The problem with this meme:
    "Being open to data, facts, and science doesn't make you a _____. It makes you literate."

    (fill in the blank)
     
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    That is because you were not specific and standing by itself the statement has little meaning. Was it 20 Centigrade or Fahrenheit? It makes a big difference ... 20 Centigrade may not seem very warm to you or me, but to a person from Lapland it would be hot.

    I am not sure what you were driving at in your post.
     
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    I totally agree.

    But on this BB there seems to be folk that love to scream liberal or government conspiracy when there are scientific facts that make them uncomfortable.

    There is a big difference between literal and ignorant ... and is not necessary to be liberal to know the difference. :rolleyes:
     
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    Climate change is occurring. The question is--what is causing it? That's where the disagreement comes in and where the liberal labels are born (and rightly so.) The liberal solution is to create a fake currency out of thin air, a carbon credit, and then "trade" this fake money amongst nations, basically allowing the country with the most credits to pollute the most.
     
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    Actually you answered your own
    question!

    When certain info is left out - whether intentional or not - can make a big difference.


    ps - Actually you and I would understand that 20 degrees would be warn - when we understand it is centigrade!
     
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    Actually, 20 degrees Fahrenheit was considered warm in Maine (We lived there for 15 years) in the month of January.

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    I hear you.

    I remember years ago there was a terrible cold spell in Minnesota. The temperature stay below -20f for several weeks. When it warmed to 10f people went around in their shirt sleeves saying how warm it felt.
     
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    Yes, we call it "March" here.
     
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    Yes, and the beginning of "spring" in Maine is when the the night time temperature in March or April is in the +20's (F) and the daytime temp is above freezing (32F), this begins the maple syrup season. We would make a couple of gallons - VERY labor intensive.

    Winter begins after cider (pronounced cid-ah) season when after several frosts the apples would sweeten up, we would gather about 6 bushels of apples (we had an 80 plus acre farm), take them to the river powered cidah mill (established in 1799) and bring home 20-30 gallons, a bushel of pears helped the flavor quite a bit.

    .25/gallon if you brought your own bottles, .50 otherwise.

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    Currently, the UK produces 1% of the wine that it consumes.

    We have French documents from the Medieval Warm Period that tell us that they were seriously concerned that England would be able to produce enough wine for their own needs.

    So yes, I certainly believe that the climate changes over time. We have plenty of proof of this going back centuries. So why would I add carbon emissions into the equation, when the climate already swung back and forth. Occam's Razor tells me to slice it.

    http://web.stanford.edu/~moore/HistoryEcon.html
     
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