It just gets sillier and sillier with Obama

I believe Shininglight's light is being dimmed by all the smoke being thrown up by Obama and his sycophants.

 

Seeeking Truth states,

"I believe Shininglight's light is being dimmed by all the smoke being thrown up by Obama and his sycophants."

And America's light wasn't dimmed by the smoke and mirrors of W, Dick and Donald? What did it cost you? Thousands of American servicemen lives as well as tens of thousands injured. Not speaking of the over 100,000 Iraqi lives lost. America lost its soul for the lust of oil. Nothing to do with Sept 11.
Why do you think no one except the Brits went in? The Brits only went in because of the deal by Bush to Blair to offer construction contracts. Haliburton did well.

Lets quit the this right wing vs left wing talk right now. You Yanks(and of course those in the great southern states) need to get somewhere in the middle.

 

Rev,

I guess they got you on this one.......

Evidentally.... the buck stopped with Reagon,.... the buck stopped with the Bushes..... but Obama and the democratically controlled Congress and the Democratically controlled administration chosen by Obama....... doesn't have any leadership.

No wonder we're getting confused.... the buck keeps getting passed and no one is in charge!:thumbs:

 

Remember the U.S.S.R. And that's where Canada would be if not for America's might and wealth.

 

With our eskimos riding on elk and polar bears and brandishing their seal bone knives the Ruskies wouldn't have made it past the North Pole.

What you say is true, but don't forget Canada had the 4th largest armed forces at the end of WW2 with over 1.2 million service men and women. It was Canada that entered WW2 in 1939 not 1941. If the US was not attacked at Pearl Harbour it would not have been in the War. In fact most Americans wanted no part of WW2.

The US with a population of over 300million will always be mightier then Canada with a pop of 33 million. But we are also very wealthy and you should never underestimate Canada. We were there for you on Sept 11 and afterwards including today in Afghanistan. We just didn't need the oil in Iraq. We have plenty of it.

 

Sorry, had to clarify:

• Getting into WW2, pre-Pearl Harbor, was an unpopular idea.
• After Pearl Harbor, Americans were enthusiastically for WW2.

 

Rbell, will agree with you on both points. At Pearl Harbour America grew up and became a giant. Your servicemen and women and industrial might came to life and saved the world from tyranny. I have visited your Cemetry of the Pacific war in Hawaii and was very moved. All Canadians have nothing but respect for what you did in WW2.

 

Well spoken.

There are several occasions in which USA and Canadian forces teamed up, with excellent results.

I still remember the "Thank you, Canada!" billboards in 1979...when, thanks to the Canadians, there were far fewer hostages for the Muslim extremists in Iran to hold over our heads.

 

You keep blaming Obama for what Bush did.

Bush bought the auto industry.
Bush bught Fannie and Freddy
Bush bought the banks

Why do you guys keep giving Obama credit for what Bush did?

 

Obama will get the blame for the things that happen on his watch. So far the right is trying to blame him for things that happened under Bush. Obama legacy will be can he fix these problems or not.

There is no double standard, Reagan was never blamed for inflation. Carter was even though he technically inherited it from Ford. But it ballooned under Carter so he will forever wear that badge.

 

In other threads, more than once, I bemoaned the terrible leap toward socialism made by Bush (particularly the bank and Government Motors bailout). I can't begin to voice the displeasure I had with what Bush has done. (furthermore...I can't think of many posts that have defended Bush's stupid actions. Please don't act like folks were lining up to defend the guy).

But Obama has taken it far further than Bush ever did. He had a chance to stop the slide toward fascism. He hasn't. And he's in charge. Thus, the buck stops with him.

 

Well, on 1/20/09, Obama was handed the keys to banks Bush had invested tax dollars into. Tons of TARP money. Are you suggesting Obama should have just written those billions of tax dollars off as something Bush did or would we expect our leader to see what we can recoup from this situation? TARP money is being repaid as we speak you know?

Same with the auto companies, the tax payers money was heavily invested. Not to mention the future of suppliers, lenders, car owners were at stake. Are you suggesting Obama should have washed his hands and written our tax dollars off? Allowed all the workers from the suppliers, auto companies to hit the unemployment ranks? And raise that magic closely watched number even higher than it is today?

You guys would have ate him alive and called him names either way. He was wrong if he did and wrong if he didn't. There was nothing Obama could have done that you would have found acceptable. You guys don't even let Obama explain these were the cards handed him on 1/20/2009. He is just playing out the hand the best he can.

 

Wrong.

He doesn't have to expand government further.

If he would pull back, I would applaud him.

 

I doubt it but I will take your word for it RBell.

The question is what parts of government can HE responsibly pull back? Remember, he has a democratic congress so Barney Franks will only let him go so far.

The banks are returning back to being banks. He turned down the last bailout request. It will take years to sort out the Fannie and Freddie mess. He rushed the auto companies through prepackaged bankruptcies in an attempt to expedite their path to self reliance. I'm not sure what else he can do???

 

He can drop c(r)ap and trade.

He can not go through with socialized medicine.


There's two biggies.

 

In other words, go back on his promises? Then some would call him a liar for that. The man can't win with some folks.

 

No president can win with some folks.

I'm not "some folks."

I stated what Obama could do that would meet with my approval, and I stand by that.

(also, forgot to add: he could drop this government funding for abortions)

 

Well rbell, I sense you will be entering the winter of your discontent.

 

I'll get my coat.