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  1. Aaron

    Aaron Member
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    Who on God's green earth are you arguing with? Are deer overpopulated? Kill 'em. Are they a pest? Kill 'em. Do you like venison? Kill and eat. I'm no bleeding heart Bambi lover.

    But . . . yes, the vast majority of hunters who go into the woods at deer season do so for the kill, regardless of what they door with the carcass. Why else would someone take more than he can eat or store as was said of one's husband and son in this thread?
     
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    I rarely agree to disagree in matters that include the topic of the life of anything that contains blood.

    I know you may not wish to, but I haven't yet seen you take a view that includes thoughts on the nature of God and His word and apply it to this topic. Of course, I may not have read this thoroughly, so please point it out if you did so already. If not, I'd like to see you take it on with that in mind please.
     
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    Padre, that is how they got their food...hunting. They had no supermarkets. When I have a craving for a double cheeseburger, I let someone else kill the cow, and I go and buy one. There was no such luxury then.
     
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    ...and I can claim the "thrill of the hunt" is sin loving sentiment.
     
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    Nope.. not enough.. .scripture please!
     
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    BTW. . I am with PETA


    People
    Eating
    Tasty
    Animals!!!

    Animals have NO rights... But we are slowly becoming a feminized country that feels sorry for Bambi.

    If I want to shoot Bambi, and no law is broken.. there is no scripture telling me not to...

    We do have laws against shooting dogs.. but not deer.



    Scripture stating that hunting for sport is wrong please? If you don't have any, all you have is your opinion.. which is just as good as mine.


    Hey Padre, you should become a WV Baptist the WV Baptist Convention even has a Bow Hunter's retreat on our convention's official grounds.. "Parchment Valley in Ripley WV"... I would like for some of these Bambi lovers tell our whole convention we are sinners!... I'll try to find a link to the Bow hunt, and post it.
     
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    YOu could, but you would have NO scripture to stand on...

    Scripture please that condemns hunting?
     
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    Tim, there is no law telling me it's wrong to cheat on my wife, but it is.

    Also the argument from silence is invalid ("there is no Scripture telling me not to...")

    I don't feel sorry for Bambi, I hate sin which caused death. To take pleasure in killing something...anything just for the fun of killing something is immoral and stems from the flesh, not the Spirit.
     
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    OH, and what about coon hunting? Many good Christians here do that...
     
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    You really need Scripture to know it's wrong to take pleasure in death and killing for fun? Really?

    Is it wrong for me to punish my son if he were to pull the legs off of insects and burn them with a magnifying glass?
     
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    What about it? Is it done for the "thrill of the hunt"?

    Let me ask you (not singular, all hunters) this...will there be hunting in Heaven, why or why not?
     
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    When was the last time you heard of someone eating coon meat... of course it is done for fun. This is obviously something we are going to have to agree to disagree on.

    Hunting is fun.. although I haven't done if for 15 yrs.. It is relaxing, it heightens the senses, it controls animal populations.. and since there is nothing against it in the Bible it can only be someone's opinion that it is wrong.

    For those of you that don't like Hunting.. (killing animals with NO soul)...

    How much do you pay to see Boxing on pay per view.. the beating up of people with a soul for sport...

    And if I may, isn't any sport self gratifying? Why do we watch NFL.. or Play football.. Isn't it for self gratification... Do we pride ourselves when our cities win sporting competitions...

    Isn't pride a sin...

    YEP...

    So don't sit behind your TV on a Sunday afternoon watching football while claiming that other sports are sins.... That is not very consistent...

    BTW.. I hope the Bengals kick the Steeler's butts today! LOL
     
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    I rarely agree to disagree in matters that include the topic of the life of anything that contains blood.

    Then you will just have to disagree away. Have fun!!!!
     
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    God was the first one to kill an animal. He did so because Adam and Eve had sinned and were naked, and the animal skin was for their covering. So, the first animal to be slaughtered was not for meat consumption, but for clothing. Interesting. God also mandated the sacrifice of animals in the OT. It was a necessary evil to point to Christ's atonement for us.

    I completely agree that the death of a defenseless animal shouldn't be the result of a sinful, barbaric thrill, but if it's wrong to kill deer, then it should also be wrong to kill a rat that gets in your house, or a snake that takes up residence in your basement or attic. You can't value the life of one animal over another and judge hunters while letting fisherman "off the hook."
     
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    No need to confine your question to heaven as we will live on earth as much as heaven (Rev 21:1). It is unlikely that we will eat meat at all as it is likely to return to the days as they were before the fall. But whether heaven or earth that future has no impact on what we should do know with regards to hunting.
     
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    This is one reason I hated it when my boys to watched Bambi, and had to de-install the animal rights junk that is prevalent in Bambi... In that movie, the hunters are the bad people while poor ole Bambi's mother gets it...

    "mama... mama.... ".. Boo hoo... it's just a deer... I was yelling.. "don't let the buck get away!"
     
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    Eating the animals isn't the question.

    Pro 12:10 A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.

    See here, 1. To how great a degree a good man will be merciful; he has not only a compassion for the human nature under its greatest abasements, but he regards even the life of his beast, not only because it is his servant, but because it is God’s creature, and in conformity to Providence, which preserves man and beast. The beasts that are under our care must be provided for, must have convenient food and rest, must in no case be abused or tyrannised over. Balaam was checked for beating his ass. The law took care for oxen. Those therefore are unrighteous men that are not just to the brute-creatures; those that are furious and barbarous to them evidence, and confirm in themselves, a habit of barbarity, and help to make the creation groan, Rom. 8:22. 2. To how great a degree a wicked man will be unmerciful; even his tender mercies are cruel; that natural compassion which is in him, as a man, is lost, and, by the power of corruption, is turned into hard-heartedness; even that which they will have to pass for compassion is really cruel, as Pilate’s resolution concerning Christ the innocent, I will chastise him and let him go. Their pretended kindnesses are only a cover for purposed cruelties. —Matthew Henry

    If you wish to shoot him for fun, see above.

    Scripture says cruelty to animals is wrong. Those who are brutish enough to do it simply for sport—or, more accurately, for fun—are cruel.
     
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    This isn't the question. Not even close.

    Good.

    No one said it's wrong to kill a deer. Again, that's not the argument.

    Since your if is completely irrelevant to the case, your then is too.

    I've noticed something about you. You never simply deal with the topic, and you jump to conclusions about things to which people have never alluded.
     
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    I've noticed something about you, sir. You cannot seem to debate with others without displaying a judgemental attitude or resorting to personal attacks. If you will read my posts in this thread more carefully, perhaps you would see that I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU FOR ONCE about something, that is, that killing should not be a thrill. Good grief. Get over your personal prejudice towards me, ok?
     
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