Jade Helm 15 and the Conspiracy Theories A Reality Check on Military Exercises

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  1. Revmitchell

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    .....n Texas, home to almost two million active duty military personnel and veterans, the king of charismatic conspiracy kooks, Alex Jones, has generated a lot of heartburn among his unwitting lemmings.

    Jones says he stopped using marijuana because “it made me paranoid,” then dropped out of Austin Community College before launching his Austin-based conspiracy enterprises, Infowars and his populist radio programs. Over the last few months, he has alerted his two million listeners that Jade Helm is “way worse than you realize,” claiming it was really about “military, police working together toward population control,” and “the U.S. Army’s plan to wage war on the American people.” According to Jones, “They’re going to practice breaking into things and stuff. This is going to be hellish. Now this is just a cover for deploying the military on the streets… This is an invasion … in preparation for the financial collapse and maybe even Obama not leaving office.”

    Jones has ginned up concern with headlines like “Beyond Denial: Preparations for Martial Law in America,” warning that the “U.S. military is positioning itself to take over the states and declare martial law.”

    This is the same Alex Jones who insists the federal government staged the Oklahoma City bombing and that George Bush organized the 9/11 attack.

    He has stirred up so many Lone Star folks that Gov. Greg Abbott is having the State Guard monitor Jade Helm in an effort to quell the discontent. According to Abbott, “It is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed.”


    http://patriotpost.us/alexander/36416
     
  2. carpro

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    The whole Jade Helm thing could only get any traction because the commander-in-chief is Barak Obama. It's not about trusting the military.

    People simply do not trust Obama.

    Sad but true and he brought it on himself.
     
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    Biting the hand that feeds you eh Rev?

    Be honest now how many times a week do visit one of Alex's sites to find the stories you're always posting in current events?

    People don't trust the government. Because they can't get straight answers from it and the MSCM won't ask the questions American's want answered.

    Instead of asking the questions American's want answered the MSCM steps in to demonize and marginalize those who are asking the questions the MSCM won't ask.

    There's something basically wrong in all that. For an organization (MSCM) that is supposed to investigate and inform more often than not it merely acts as a dis-info agent of the government seeking to paint those who have done some investigation and are attempting to inform us as "crazies" and "fringe elements". The idea is to get us all focused on a "personality" and steer us away from any information that might call the official narrative into question.

    Take this new thread from the Rev, this OP seeks to make it all about a "persoanlity" Alex Jones, it's not "news" it's not informative it's a "hit piece" meant to demonize and marginalize. Carpro wants to make it all about a "personality" too, Obama.

    The big picture here is that people don't trust the government or the MSCM to give us straight answers because they've been caught lying and covering up to many things in the past.

    So what is the author of the Rev's OP trying to say?

    Questioning your government means you're crazy.
     
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    The left had concocted a similar conspiracy theory during the Bush presidency. It got no traction. Why?

    Obama was not commander -in-chief.

    And the Bush administration did not say that it believed that major threats to the country include those who support the Constitution, are military veterans, or even "cling to guns or religion".

    IOW Christians and veterans are the enemy. So sayeth Obama. And that covers a large slice of the population.
     
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    The mainstream media is attacking critics of Operation Jade Helm, including Alex Jones and Infowars, in an attempt to steer public opinion in favor of the domestic military drill.

    For example, in an article entitled As Jade Helm 15 Military Exercise Begins, Texans Keep Watch ‘Just in Case’, the New York Times referenced a non-existent Infowars “report” to claim that Infowars “suggested the name Helm was an acronym for Homeland Eradication of Local Militants,” but a quick search on Google reveals zero Infowars reports making that statement.

    In fact, the only reference to that statement on Infowars.com was made by an Infowars reader named Luke who posted a link to an All News Pipeline article not affiliated with Infowars which made that claim.

    To put that into perspective, that’d be like if the Zulu Times, for example, claimed The Los Angeles Messenger made “XYZ” statement because a commenter on a L.A. Messenger article posted a link to a Topeka Dispatch report making that claim.

    Not surprising, the New York Times doesn’t link to the Infowars “report” because it doesn’t exist.

    Other news outlets are simply attempting to discredit Jones outright as Jade Helm commences.

    Salon, for example, claimed that Jones’ rants against political correctness could get gay people “killed.”

    “Seriously speaking, it’s eliminationist rhetoric like this that gets people killed,” Salon’s Bob Cesca wrote.

    And in what’s perhaps the most bizarre example, a July 15 report by Top Secret Writers claims a “YouTube video featuring Alex Jones” attacked the U.S. Marines’ Toys For Tots program even though Jones is not in the 2008 video embedded in the article and it wasn’t produced by anyone affiliated with Infowars.

    It appears that instead of having a rational debate over Jade Helm, the mainstream media would rather use fallacious ad hominem attacks against its critics.

    http://www.infowars.com/mainstream-media-caught-lying-about-jade-helm-critics/

    You go ahead and obsess over personalities and defending "your side" Carpro while I follow my obsession with posting evidence. :smilewinkgrin:

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=100957

    WHAT THEY WON’T TELL YOU ABOUT JADE HELM

    The Jade Helm military exercise kicked off yesterday and already the media is diligently beating away at "those crazy conspiracy nuts"

    http://www.infowars.com/what-they-wont-tell-you-about-jade-helm/

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    “The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. ” ― Zbigniew Brzeziński, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era
     
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    Of course. When has the media not been in the tank for Obama? They're protecting him. They know, as I do, that if he wasn't CiC, we wouldn't hear a peep from anybody.
     
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    Not quite accurate. True, if Obama wasn't the CiC, there would be no rednecks in Texas making wild predictions that he's going to take over the nation with Jade Helm 15 being the dress rehearsal. If there weren't any paranoids posting on Facebook, Twitter, holding meetings, demanding the governor have the Texas Guard watch the military, there would be nothing for the press to report.
     
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    Then, it is entirely accurate.

    And it goes back to Obama saying that the major threats to the country include those who support the Constitution, are military veterans, or even "cling to guns or religion".

    There are a lot of all those in Texas. Thank God!

    And Texas was designated as "hostile". That probably was no accident.
     
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    Exactly.....Its who is at the "helm" more than anything.
     
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    I'll agree with Rev that Jones is over the top and fairly kooky, but this Jade Helm stuff is kinda scary IMO. It does appear by the videos we have seen that our military is practicing for civil unrest. Why? Is there something coming? I'm not a conspiracy guy at all but my spidy senses tell me something is up.
     
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    Texans organize 'Operation Counter Jade Helm' to keep an eye on the federal troops

    When the troops land in Texas for Operation Jade Helm next week, someone will be waiting for them.

    Hundreds of people have organized a "Counter Jade Helm" surveillance operation across the Southwestern states and in an effort to keep an eye on the contentious military drill that's sparked many suspicious of Uncle Sam's intentions.

    Eric Johnston, a 51-year-old retired firefighter and sheriff's deputy who lives in Kerrville, is a surveillance team leader in Texas. He'll coordinate three groups of volunteers, about 20 folks in total, who hope to monitor the SEALs, Green Berets and Air Force Special Ops in Bastrop, Big Spring and Junction when Jade Helm kicks off on July 15. With media prohibited at the drills, the volunteers could be a main source of information for the highly-anticipated seven-state exercise.

    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Texans-organize-Operation-Counter-Jade-Helm-to-6378017.php
     
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