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Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Pine_Island_Mrs, Nov 20, 2004.
What do you think about Jerry Falwell?
For the last 20 years, his religion has taken a back seat to his political ambitions.
I can tell you what I think in two words.
He has a disease that causes him to talk about himself all the time.
If you can't say anything good don't say anything at all.
Ephesians 4:29 (KJV1769):
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth,
but that which is good to the use of edifying,
that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
Jerry is NOT a liberal. I know liberals and he is far from that. Be careful in such wild accusation.
Unless you have some doctrine on which he has taken a liberal stance. Then, I will join you!
Dr. Falwell was a strong and militant fundamentalist. He moved (intentionally) from that to a more moderate fundamentalist - we would say "evangelical" or "new evangelical".
The militant fundamentalists labeled him a "pseudo-fundamentalist" out of derision.
I believe he prefers Southern Baptist as the label today.
I agree with you Dr. Bob; based on what I have seen of him on the news and talk-shows. He certainly maintains the fundamintalist doctrine in his talk and in his walk.
What is your opinion of his actions on the Baker situation?
Do you think he actually lied to Baker as Baker says in his book?
Do you think he really said he would stay temporarily until Baker got over the adultry thing?
I'm not questioning his faith or his basic walk in life; just the one situation. I realize that it was probably best to try to get Baker out of the lime-light, but was it really right? Does the end justify the means?
James 3: And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
No problem there. I guess I didn't make my question clear. I was questioning Baker's honesty when he says "Jerry told him in private that he would give PTL back to him after a few weeks, then betrayed him." (Baker's words not mine....my paraphrase of his words)
I somehow doubt that Jerry would discuss in detail his plan without having witnesses around.
Baker may have exagerrated the statement. Jerry may have said he would investigate the situation for three or four weeks and if Baker was truly repentant, he would put him back in position.
Baker was the one who called Jerry in to save PTL anyway.
If Jerry Falwell is a liberal, you must be to the "right" of Attilla the Hun!. I suppose Falwell could be called alot of things, but liberal is not one of them
Yes, I agree. Alas, it seems his best days are behind him, something that aging process tends to take its toll upon.
I think one of the reasons people call him a liberal is because he has said in the past that he favors making abortion illegal except for rape, incest, and life, and sometimes health, of the mother. Those who call him a liberal fail to realize that this is a legal stance, and that this was said in regards to a a legal conversational context. His moral stance is still the same: overall, abortion overall is wrong. If this makes him a liberal and a compromiser, than many of us here are liberals and compromisers as well.
Phillip, if I remember correctly, Jerry Falwell went through the books of PTL, discovered the truth, and hence refused to return PTL to Bakker. It was the right decision. Again, if memory serves.
Jerry Falwell is a wonderful man of God. My only advice to him would be to spend more TV time preaching and less pushing his college and raising funds and I am not so sure he should get involved again with politics with his new organization.
Many said that about thirty years ago.
We don't get him out here in Spokane. When I did see him a little over 20 years ago I loved him.Some people love to pick everything aprt and find fault with everything and everybody. IN CERTAIN cases I would say I like what he is doing better than what you're not doing.
Falwell is like all of us, he is not prefect, but he preaches the Gospel without compromise. I like another Baptist , Pat Robertson, and he is about the only place we can get a Christian prospective on the news across this nation. He tends to overload his mouth sometimes but he and the 700 club provides a great service.
I don't think Pat Robertson is a Baptist.
Marcia: They u would be wrong. He is a ordained Southern Baptist minister and is a member of the First Baptist church of Norfolk.
He is also as I am full gospel. He believes in the Gifts of the Holy Spirit for today.
Thanks for the info, mickd7. I truly thought I had heard he was AOG.
Pat Robertson is ordained Southern Baptist.