A Jew wrote in to EWTN and said: The answer, from EWTN: Would that you were given the grace to recognize Jesus as the Son of God and could join the Catholic Church. But if you honestly cannot accept Him as such, by living a life as a devout Jew, you can reach heaven. This is what the Catholic Church teaches. AND Mel Gibson's movie, "The Passion" does NOT contradict this. Fr. Vincent Serpa, O.P. Note from Novus Ordo Watch: Ah yes, this is what is today considered to be "top-notch, rock-solid Catholic orthodoxy." With "conservatives" like these, who needs liberals?! If you can be saved as a Jew, why did Christ even bother to come?!! Here is the Catholic teaching presented in no uncertain terms by the infallible and dogmatic Council of Florence, ratified by Pope Eugene IV: "[A]ll those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Catholic Church before the end of their lives; that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is of such importance that only for those who abide in it do the Church's sacraments contribute to salvation and do fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militia produce eternal rewards; and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed his blood in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and the unity of the catholic church." [Read all of the Council of Florence here] Amen! Now....according to Carson Weber, our resident student of theology at Franciscan University in Steubenville, the above statement from the Council of Florence is binding upon me as a Catholic and I am under obligation to believe everything that was written by Pope Eugene IV. So WHO, pray tell us, are the heretics and WHO are the schismatics regarding the issue of disobedience to a concicular decision? So I, as a conscientious Catholic, cannot disobey or disbelieve Pope John Paul II's teachings regarding the teachings of Vatican II and the idea that Muslims "worship the same god" (BALONEY!!!) BUT..... Carson and his Novus Ordo buds are allowed to disregard the teachings of the Council of Florence in favor of a "kinder and gentler Catholicism" which will not offend anyone in the interests of false eccumenicism. Sorry. I ain't buying it!! *snif snif* Methinks I smell a tad of hypocrisy laying around here somewhere. Okay, Carson. Yer turn at the plate, my man. Defend the practice of the Novus Ordo in ignoring previous concicular decisions. As far as I am concerned, since there were no declarations of infallibility with Vatican II, I see nothing binding on me IF it contradicts earlier councils. Brother Ed -- from the headquarters of the SSPX - Eastern Rite High Command Center and 10 cent Wash and Dry Center.