Recently, we had a rep from Jews for Jesus come to our church and do a Passover presentation. Very interesting, to say the least. I was able to gain lots of valuable insight. One thing, though. He said in the passover celebration that there were four cups served. I can't remember the first two, but the last two were the redemption cup and the Hallel cup. Many here on the board have said that Judas was not at the initiation of the Lord's supper part of the passover, but I don't see why, even based on these four cup issues, especially since most Jews are still looking for the Messiah. Why is it a bad thing to think Judas was at the initiation of the Lord's Supper?