Justification completed in baptism????

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    #527 Jesus' circumcision, on the eighth day after his birth......This sign prefigures that 'circumcision of Christ' which is baptism - Catechism of the Catholic Church

    #1992 - Justification is conferred in baptism - CCC


    Romans 4:11 totally destroys the whole Roman Catholic interpretation of justification being conferred in or completed in baptism:

    9 ΒΆ Cometh this blessedness [justification = imputed righteousness without works and remission of sins - vv. 5-8] then upon the circumcision [baptized] only, or upon the uncircumcision [unbaptized] also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
    10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, [baptism] or in uncircumcision [unbaptized]? Not in circumcision [baptism], but in uncircumcision [unbaptized].
    11 And he received the sign of circumcision [baptism], a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised [unbaptized]: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised;[not baptized] that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:


    Paul not only clearly asserts that justification was not had "in circumcison" [in baptism] but rather "in uncircumcision" [without baptism] but argues that justification was "had" while Abraham was "in uncircumcision" because "that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised;[not baptized] that righteousness might be imputed unto them also" without circumcision [baptism].

    Regardless of my explanation of justification, it is clear that Paul clearly and explicitly repudiates the Roman Catholic view of justification received in or completed in baptism and thus repudiates the Roman Catholic view of sacraments. The whole Roman Catholic Soteriology stands and falls with its view of baptism.
     
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