KJO and Riplinger (New Age versions)

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  1. bbas 64

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    thanks for posting! I will check them out.
     
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    A couple of years ago I was at a Sword of the Lord conference and someone was giving away her book "Understanding the King James Bible" to pastors for free. I had never heard of her before, so I took a copy of her book.

    I was pretty clueless up to this point about the whole KJVO controversy. I had grown up under John R Rice and pretty much held his view - KJV is a good translation but it is JUST a translation and it DOES have a few errors in it. Then I was away from the SOTL camp for a bunch of years and just started associating with some of them lately.

    Anyway, as I read her book my overriding thought, honestly,was "what a fruitcake."

    The interview on YouTube just reenforced that opinion. She is (I'm sorry to say) a nutcase.
     
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    And she claims to have advanced revelation. Did you notice that she said "God told her this" and "God told her that"?

    What baffles me is how many "fundamental" Baptists that will call charismatics etc heretics for believing that GOd speaks directly to people with new revelationbut they will buy into GAR hook, line and sinker when she tells people what God "told her".

    Fortunately not ALL KJV people are that far messed up.
    Many will distance themselves from her.
     
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    Oh I feel so naughty :rolleyes:
    I'm a man being taught spiritual truths by a woman.

    Oh, wait a minute! If I enjoy being taught spiritual truths that makes me a 'liberal'.

    I repent in bitter tears :tear:

    YBIC.
    -Ed, sonne of Ed, sonne of Edd.
     
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    I watched all the videos and all I can say is.....:eek: :rolleyes:

    That woman has problems.

    I also watched the one titled "Titanic and the NIV". :rolleyes: :BangHead:
     
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    Good Day, Dale

    Can you say Gnostic.......

    In Him,

    Bill
     
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    Me also. It was a hoot. :D

    Personally I saw some 180 persons saved BY JESUS while I usd my NIV. There were some other bibles I used also, but only about 80 persons with them. This had more to do with the working of Jesus in my life and the life of the saved than the Bible Version I had in my hand. The NIV has been a blessilng to my life, even thouth I've used the KJVs a bit over half my 55-years of being a christian. I don't even particullarly use the NIV now. My current pastor uses the NASB (New American Standard Bible). But if he comes to a hard word he will say the KJV word to explain it, he has probably memorized a third of the KJV1769 Family of Editions.
     
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    I can say Gnostic. I can spell Gnostic. And yes, I think you are right :)
     
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    True

    Regarding your first sentence above, I once had a pastor mention that if a person REALLY heard God speak to them and KNEW beyond a shadow of doubt that it was really God and it was a NEW revelation that it would and should have to be added to the Bible. If you think about it, this would be true, because it would be just as inspired as Paul's writings. So, it is VERY dangerous to say that we heard something directly from God. Most of the time God may have told us something, but we add our own slant to it.

    Yes, you are absolutely right on most KJV people. The ones I don't mind dealing with are the KJV "PREFERRED". .....nothing wrong with that, at all. But, to stand a modern translation (any translation from 1000 forward---I would say) above all the rest is walking on quick sand because then they have to attack another version to make their case and in my humble opinion, that is very dangerous because they would be attacking God's Word. (I'm not talking about being specific and saying this or that verse is not translated very well in a certain translation, that's just study of the originals vs. the translations.)

    But, to say the NIV is evil, that becomes very dangerous. You can still dislike a version and not attack it. I have many versions, and there are good points and bad points about every single one, including the KJV series. Riplinger just goes off the deep end and is obviously not educated in Biblical Translation in the slightest. I wouldn't want to stand in front of God after calling the NIV as "coming from Satan" or something else as bad or worse--even if I think the NIV is not the best translation.
     
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    I agree. Also, the link above that points to the counter site of GAR starts by proving that she is on her third marriage.

    While this is certainly interesting and casts doubt on her supposed "apostleship" (she does claim to hear straight from God) it is not the reason WHY she is wrong.
    It is, however a very condeming fact if her own method of judgement were to be used against her.

    "Westcott and Hort were eveil villians therefore their text was evil...."

    So why don't we just turn the tables and say "she is on her third marriage so her books must be evil"

    If her followers were fair, they would say this but we should not. Why?
    Her marital status does not change the facts of the book(s) she has written.
    They are wrong because they are wrong. Not because of the fact that she can't keep a husband around.

    Wait...perhaps she should divorce and marry Ruckman :)
    That would make 4 for both of them?
    Ok, that was mean!
     
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    Perhaps the ex-spouses of GAR & PSR could start their own wing of "E-Harmony".

    If she'd only been married once, ot not at all, yes, her boox would still be wrong. There's simply no excusing her deliberate misquotes of other authors, not to mention her other misinformation. If ya have listened to the above YouTube linx & other broadcasts of hers, you know she's not stupid, so you should know her stuff is DELIBERATE.
     
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    I find it interesting that many churches who would not think of letting divorced people even teach Sunday School will allow Mrs Latessa/Keleda/Riplinger speak to their churches.
     
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    I guess that's because they have different rules for celebrities, especially those who agree with their leadership in certain doctrines. "Do as I say, not as I do".
     
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    Her 'personal' life aside, her DELIBERATE MISQUOTING AND TWISTING of the words of other authors, not to mention her DELIBERATE publishing of misinformation, raises a huge question as to what her true committment is. Seems she's more into MAKING MONEY than she is in promoting KJVO or actually working for the LORD.
     
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    I see any defense for GAR has dried up in a hurry! Perhaps the truth is being seen.
     
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    I have long thought the same thing.
    I have a friend who in an OPC pastor who is KJV prefered but strongly opposed what he calls KJV Idolatry.
    When you raise ones opnion of the KJV above any and all other concerns then you have gone way to far.
    I have not seen anyone on the BB that idolizes the KJV but they are out there.
     
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    Did anyone attempt to defend G.A.R.?

    The matter is a total non-starter as far as I can see. :sleep:
     
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    Actually, there IS no defense for her actions.
     

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