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KJVO DIVISIVE!

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by psr.2, Aug 23, 2004.

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  1. Bro.Bill

    Bro.Bill New Member

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    Dear PSR.2,
    Instead of purseing this thread why don't you start a thread on a Bible study.Ideas for this could be something like:
    1.The teachings of Christ.
    2.Christ in the O.T.
    3.The prodigal son.
    4.Where is eternal security taught in the Bible.
    5.The nature of God
    6.The works of the Holy Spirit.
    7.Where is personal evangelism taught in the Bible.
    Take your pick of any one of thousands of things to discuss that would be productive and edifying.

    lJn3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning,that we should love one another.
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  2. Bro.Bill

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    I should have edited my last entry.
     
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  3. Trotter

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    Bro.Bill,

    That's not what psr.2 wants. All psr.2 wants is to cause division and strife. That much was evident the last time he was active on the BB.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
    #23 Trotter, Aug 23, 2004
  4. David J

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    Proverbs 6:16(NASB)
    16 There are six things which the LORD hates,

    Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:


    17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,

    And hands that shed innocent blood,


    18 A heart that devises wicked plans,

    Feet that run rapidly to evil,


    19 A false witness who utters lies,

    And one who spreads strife among brothers.

    Enough said......
     
    #24 David J, Aug 23, 2004
  5. Cix

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    KJV has errors. God does not have error. Thus, the KJV wasn't inspired by God.
     
    #25 Cix, Aug 23, 2004
  6. Dr. Bob

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    Caling someone who believes differently than you "blinded" and "unbelieving" calls into question their salvation.

    I am sure that is NOT what you were doing, ps, since that would get you banned immediately.

    Thank you for carefully choosing your words.
     
    #26 Dr. Bob, Aug 23, 2004
  7. michelle

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    They will accept versions with verses removed, the name of God removed, the blood of Christ removed etc. before the God inspired KJV.

    Please cease your fanatical rattling long enuff...IF YOU CAN...to answer these simple questions...WHAT PROOF CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT THE KJV IS ISSPIRED TO THE EXCLUSION OF ALL OTHER ENGLISH BVS?
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    He has said it above, and you COMPLETELY MISSED IT, OR IGNORED IT.

    I have been continually accused of approaching this with a false premise, a premise that I need to prove, and haven't proved. I have indicated that the truth is my premise, the truth of the scriptures.


    Now, let me ask you, what exactly is your premise?


    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle


    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
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  8. michelle

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    CAN YOU PROVE THE BVS YOU RANT AGAINST HAVE ACTUALLY LEFT MATERIAL OUT...OR HAVE THEY NOT KEPT WHAT WAS ADDED TO THE KJV?


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    Yes, the truth revealed in the scriptures, the faith one has in them, and the Holy Spirit of truth proves that they were not added, but indeed have been deleted.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
    #28 michelle, Aug 23, 2004
  9. HankD

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    This is both sad and comical. psr.2 comes on in his first post like “gang busters” saying
    then proceeds in about 10 out of the 20 or so posts to spew out venom and hate.
    Who is divisive?

    HankD
     
    #29 HankD, Aug 23, 2004
  10. AVL1984

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    I definitely would second that, Ransom!

    AVL1984
     
    #30 AVL1984, Aug 23, 2004
  11. AVL1984

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    Your continued false accusations show you to be less knowledgable than you think you are. You don't know what anyone is thinking unless you are a psychic. Are you? I don' think so. Besides, what does this have to do with the thread? Nothing. You're proving again what you truly are, nothing more than a troll.


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  12. Trotter

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    Michelle,

    This has a very simple, one word meaning.

    It is called gnosticism.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
    #32 Trotter, Aug 23, 2004
  13. AVL1984

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    Again you're not addressing the fact of the underlying texts being different, michelle, which makes you less than honest. You can say the MV's leave out all you like, but according to their underlying texts, it's all there. Learn the truth before you post, please. You're one of those that puts a stain on the Christ by false accusations. :(

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    #33 AVL1984, Aug 23, 2004
  14. AVL1984

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    Again, just words and no proof posted. Glad you're not a medical researcher!

    AVL1984
     
    #34 AVL1984, Aug 23, 2004
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    If it is the "one and only", then logic dictates that there wasn't one before 1611. This makes God a liar for 1600 years. This proves your premise false.
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    The fallacy of your opinion comes with your logic. It is lacking in faith in and of the evidence of the scriptures available and present to us today. You seem to have made human logic your premise, rather than the truth in the scriptures. This is very unbiblical and faulty, to which is causing you to run around in circles regarding this debate. You assume your own human wisdom and logic is the truth first. This is your folly. You call my premise unsound? I would much rather be unsound to your opinion, but sound in the truth of the scriptures.

    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
    #35 michelle, Aug 23, 2004
  16. AVL1984

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    Funny, Michelle, our MV's teach the same things as your KJV. So, I guess that would make your KJV incorrect also, correct???

    AVL1984
     
    #36 AVL1984, Aug 23, 2004
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    You can't prove your thesis (deletions) they can't prove theirs (additions) neither can you impose upon others what you believe the Holy Spirit is saying to you.

    HankD
     
    #37 HankD, Aug 23, 2004
  18. Dr. Bob

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    Working on faulty syllogisms for logic class. How will these hold up under scrutiny?

    Major Premise:
    God promised to preserve His very words

    Minor Premise:
    Only the KJV has the very words of God

    Conclusion:
    There was no Bible with the very words of God before/since the KJV

    but then make that erroneous conclusion a new premise:

    Major Premise:
    God promised to preserve His very words for all time

    Minor Premise:
    God's very words were NOT preserved until 1611

    Conclusion:
    God is a liar.

    Should make some good illustrations of what kind of illogical tripe is being spewed, and how it defames the character of my God.
     
    #38 Dr. Bob, Aug 23, 2004
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    KJV has errors. God does not have error. Thus, the KJV wasn't inspired by God.
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    By this statement, I guess none of have the word of God then, like He said we would. I guess we only have the word of men. You can go ahead and believe this, but it is not true. I believe we have the word of God to which is accurate and true and without error. You can continue in vain to claim and try to prove God's word has errors, but they will be unfounded. The truth does not lie, nor is it proven untrue.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
    #39 michelle, Aug 23, 2004
  20. natters

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    Michelle said "The fallacy of your opinion comes with your logic."

    The fallacy of your opinion is the result of your illogic. You say God preserved his word perfectly for all generations, yet you later say he didn't and that the KJV was needed to correct that which already existed. Contradiction. You said the Gevena has no errors, then you say it has errors. Contradiction. You say there was a "final" authority in 1610, then you say that which is "final" was corrected and replaced. Contradiction. You say God's truth is eternal and unchanging, then you say what wasn't an error in the Bible in 1610 is an error today and that God corrected his word. Contradiction. You said the feast of unleavened bread is not the Passover and then you said the feast of unleavened bread is the Passover. Contradiction. You said Westcott denied the deity of Christ, then you said Westcott didn't deny the deity of Christ because he was hiding his true beliefs. Contradiction. You say the Greek and Hebrew don't matter, then you rely on them to demonstrate how other Bibles have been corrupted. Contradiction.

    Are you beginning to understand why we have problems with your posts? God's truth is not contradictory. Your "truth" is nothing but.
     
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