Krauthammer: British parliament voting against action in Syria “ Complete Humiliation

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  1. Revmitchell

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    This is a complete humiliation for the Obama administration. Forget about the merits of what Obama wants to do, which I think it’s a bad idea, but let’s assume it’s a good idea. This involves the elementary conduct of international diplomacy, trying to get some allies aboard so you don’t act unilaterally.
    So who’s the main ally in the world who has been with us in every trench for the last 100 years? The British. And now the British have voted against us.

    The other supposed ally was the French, President Hollande, and now he’s saying we got to wait for the report from the UN inspectors which will be early next week. So here is Obama and the Democrats, who railed against the Bush administration for its supposedly unilateral invasion of Iraq where we had 48 allies for a mission that involved boots on the ground — a real invasion, a real war. And here’s Obama trying to gather an ally or two for a pinprick, and he gets nothing.


    http://youngcons.com/krauthammer-br...on-in-syria-a-complete-humiliation-for-obama/
     
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    I truly hope that the rest of the Christian community takes some time out to pray for the man and his decision making instead of always complaining about every little move he makes.

    Some on this board must have dreams with Obama in them.
     
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    "Some on this board must have dreams with Obama in them."

    That would be me, I've had night mares for several years now.

    " I truly hope that the rest of the Christian community takes some time out to pray for the man and his decision making instead of always complaining about every little move he makes."

    Yest an observation. Just cuz some complain, dosen't mean they aren't praying.
     
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    He needs to be humbled seeing he accused Mr Bush many times then does the same himself.
     
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    I find it interesting that "W" was able to put together a coalition to invade Iraq (partially) on the argument that Saddam had used poisoned gas on the Kurds in 1988. In this instance we have incontrovertible proof that chemical weapons have been used in Syria and Obama can't get the U.S. top two allies to go along with his plans.
     
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    It has nothing to do with who the president is. People are sick and tired of trying to make the world safe for democracy when they don't want democracy to begin with.
     
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    Finally the Brits did something right! :thumbs:
     
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    Thats not entirely accurate. Iraq intelligence showed and later proved there were plans in place to attack America after the invasion, regardless of whether weapons were never found (they went to Syria wh are using them). Syria is no direct threat to the US. Entirely different scenarios.
     
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    there is no incontrovertible proof the Syrian leader used chemical weapons on his own people.
    The proof there is no proof, is the Brits voting against intervention on the grounds the white house tenant is raising.
    and even if the Syrian leader did use chemical weapons, is the US chief enforcer of chemical weapons treaties ?
     
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    It has everything to do with who the President is. When people here in America do not agree with this President the claim is because he is black. So apparently so is the UK.

    Obama is so arrogant he is not willing to do anything to build coalitions. He refused to talk with Putin over Snowden citing "Why should I have to?"

    However his arrogance works in our favor this time. We have no business going into Syria at all.
     
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    :thumbsup:Obama's personal and intentional insults and snubs to the British may have caught up with him. He has (quite intentionally) taken every available opportunity to insult them and undermine our Alliance with them. I found this editorial interesting. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/08/30/obama-has-only-himself-to-blame-for-britains-syria-snub/..................from the article: ...To see this no vote as just about Syria does not fully explain the mentality in the UK. Instead, we must look at the state of the Anglo-American alliance. For most interventions do not directly serve British interests, but American. Britain therefore goes into battle because America is Britain’s strongest ally, and a strong America means a strong Great Britain.
     
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    BINGO.:thumbsup: I've seen the mass graves. And the Kurdish people will tell you first hand who did it.

    The British people have the same problem we have in the US: they are tired of fighting wars and sending their soldiers to war. They are experiencing war malaise just as Americans are. It's not a surprise that their parliament said no if you pay attention to the country's mood. Not to mention there is an election coming up.

    Neither the British nor the American electorate are thrilled about giving lives to help folks who aren't, as you said C4K, looking for democracy.
     
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    In the imaginations of those looking for a race angle, sure.

    Has someone come out and said this? The people against the President and his administration seem to make race an issue much more than he and his administration do.

    People said the same thing about George Bush.

    Perhaps. But the nature of this country of late is to do a lot of stuff we ain't got no business doing.
     
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    So you're disappointed we did not launch a massive invasion of Iran?
     
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    No......why would you immediately conclude something so simplistic? I don't think we would have had to.
     
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    Just because they did not send troops does not mean they were not part of the coalition. Some people need to learn about coalitions and how they work.
     
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    I was being sarcastic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coalition_of_the_willing.svg

    Which did not include those countries.
     
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    From the source

    From your own source the number was not yet complete. Also trying to nitpic the countries does nothing to disprove the fact that Bush was able to build a coalition which we see here he did a good job.
     
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