Kwansa: Harmless silly holiday, or anti-God, and anti-White

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  1. Joseph_Botwinick

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    The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson has written the following about Kwansa:

    Just say "No" to Kwansaa

    What are your thoughts about this?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  2. just-want-peace

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    Seems odd to me that anyone would want to get "in touch" with any roots that played a big part of enslaving them!
    But I suppose that this fact is conviently omitted in the "program" description! :rolleyes:
     
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    The jury is still out for me on this! Here in South Central rural Texas, we don't really hear that much about it. I'm ignorant, in that, I really don't know how God is glorified in This holiday. Could someone fill in the blanks for me. Thanks, WallyGator :confused: :confused:
     
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    well from reading what The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson says Kwansa is anotherone of satans tatics to keep the focus off of Jesus Christ.
    JMO
     
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    I don't have a problem with my black friends celebrating Kwanzaa, but I hope they don't ignore Christmas...and they don't! If you read up on the holiday, it is simply a time to remember heritage and family. Something wrong with that? We do it all the time, but don't call it anything. What I would be disappointed with was for someone to replace Christmas with Kwanzaa.
     
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    Thank you, thank you, thank you! I can't believe someone had the courage to start a thread on this. Every time I mention something about how and why we should NOT honor Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (one reason is because he got his doctor's degree by plaegerizing 65% of his doctoral thesis, and another is because his name was never legally changed from Michael King), I get flamed by the folks at my church. Seems the pastor and I are the only ones that have done enough research on our own through the Federal Freedom of Information Act to find out who this man REALLY was and what he represents. Ok, I know I got off topic momentarily, but I had to get that out. Kwanzaa is another example of a group of people who are selfishly seeking to raise themselves up instead of Christ, and seeking to place themselves first instead of serving others, as Christ would have us do. Thanks for the thread, Joseph...
     
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    I think there are 7 principles of Kwansaa. What are they?

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    Kwaanza is a benign, cultural holiday. If someone wants to engage in it, bon appetit. If they don't that's fine too.
     
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    The seven guiding principles of Kwansaa are:

    1. Umoja (OO-MO-JAH) Unity stresses the importance of togetherness for the family and the community, which is reflected in the African saying, "I am We," or "I am because We are."
    2. Kujichagulia (KOO-GEE-CHA-GOO-LEE-YAH) Self-Determination requires that we define our common interests and make decisions that are in the best interest of our family and community.
    3. Ujima (OO-GEE-MAH) Collective Work and Responsibility reminds us of our obligation to the past, present and future, and that we have a role to play in the community, society, and world.
    4. Ujamaa (OO-JAH-MAH) Cooperative economics emphasizes our collective economic strength and encourages us to meet common needs through mutual support.
    5. Nia (NEE-YAH) Purpose encourages us to look within ourselves and to set personal goals that are beneficial to the community.
    6. Kuumba (KOO-OOM-BAH) Creativity makes use of our creative energies to build and maintain a strong and vibrant community.
    7. Imani (EE-MAH-NEE) Faith focuses on honoring the best of our traditions, draws upon the best in ourselves, and helps us strive for a higher level of life for humankind, by affirming our self-worth and confidence in our ability to succeed and triumph in righteous struggle.
     
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    They would be a 7 point Kwansanist.
     
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    Man-made party time and fake names for the days supposedly from some African languages (was looking for 'Kunta Kinte' but musta missed it) because Christmas is a white-man's holiday - according to a Black Baptist preacher friend of mine. He has no use for it as a Christian.

    I have Irish roots and proudly wear Orange and party and celebrate with foods and activities. Don't mind any non-Irish enjoying the same.
     
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    I agree with the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, who is a very honest and intelligent black man who dares to speak out and tell the truth - unlike the other Rev. Jesse. :rolleyes:

    Kwanza has a "Christmas stamp" for sale at the post office, along with the Nativity stamp and the Muslim Eid stamp. Kwanza was started by a Marxist misogynist and Islam was started by a murdering pedophile. And we have a President, too, who praises all of it. How nice. Isn't government just all so culturally politically correct, no matter how goofy. :rolleyes:

    The point I'm trying to make is that in the effort of trying to be all things to all people, our government still doesn't have it right because there are people who still aren't included in the inclusiveness. Like the men burning crosses wearing white sheets. Does anyone think they'll get a special speech from the White House or a postage stamp? [​IMG]
     
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    LE,

    Would you like for them to get a special speech from the White House or a postage stamp?

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    I was trying to make a point, Joseph. Trying the get a jump on the inevitable counter argument about "equality" for all. See? ;)

    Then after I posted it, wondered if there is a "gay" stamp! There probably is, knowing how goofy our politically correct government is. :rolleyes:
     
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    So, you don't want them to get a special speech from the White House or a postage stamp?

    Joseph Botwinick [​IMG]
     
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    How do you spell kazundheidt?
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    Was that a no? [​IMG]

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    C'mon Joseph. You know it was. Did I ever tell you about the time (when I was growing up) they burned a cross on our yard because we had a black man (African national Bible School student) staying with us? True story. Greensboro, NC. 1950s.
     

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