Any lazy preachers out there? I see your hand Larry. That was a rhetorical question. In my 17 years of ministry, I've only worked with one pastor I would deem lazy. I'm sure it happens to 1 in 10,000, so I know everyone here is safe. In churches where that happens, the church is somewhat at fault by not setting parameters in the beginning for the pastors to be accountable and show evidence of fulfilling the churches requirements for the role. "Pastor, here is what we expect you to do as pastor of our church. Is this something you can accomodate?" Yes. Great! No. Keep looking. I here from various church members how unhappy they are with their current pastor or staff member, whether it's visitation practices, punctuality, office hours, availability, ect. When I ask if the appropriate persons have talked to the pastor (personnel co., deacons, elders, ect), most say something to the affect, "No, we're meeting to vote him out, or his time is coming, or we shouldn't have to talk to him." If they are not fulfilling their duties, then the church needs to take action. We meet once a quarter just to make sure we're all heading in the same direction. I look forward to those meetings. Folks will let conflict come to a boil and let it simmer for 6-7 months until there's a blow up. It's hard for pastors to correct a mistake or short coming they may have made 7 months ago, too much animosity. I'm thankful for my pastor. He's busy about the Lord's work and is a great shepherd for the sheep. He keeps regular hours and works on Saturdays too .