Masonic Organizations

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by mark, Jan 7, 2003.

  1. mark

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    Are you a Mason?
     
  2. AdoptedDaughter

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    What's a Mason?
     
  3. Johnv

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    For starters, he's the guy working on my block wall.
     
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    Masonry is a false religion and has no relationship to biblical Christianity.Anyone involved in such who cannot see it for what it is, is blind and naked and without God.
     
  5. mark

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    Tentmaker, don't hold back, tell how you really feel. And whatever you do, don't worry about being sensitive to your brothers in Christ who might be Masons. SARCASM ALERT!

    [ January 07, 2003, 11:01 PM: Message edited by: mark ]
     
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    Just for the record. I have never been a Mason.

    Jason :D
     
  7. Dr. Bob

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    Blind? Yes. Naked? Maybe. Without God? Whoa Nellie. I am 100% opposed to the Lodge as a false religion. But know of some truly regenerated Christians who are still mixed up in it.

    Know some Christians that are still Catholic even though they got saved. This is a growing process and we need to give some slack to those baby christians who still may be caught up in this slime.
     
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    Blind? Yes. Naked? Maybe. Without God? Whoa Nellie. I am 100% opposed to the Lodge as a false religion. But know of some truly regenerated Christians who are still mixed up in it.

    Know some Christians that are still Catholic even though they got saved. This is a growing process and we need to give some slack to those baby christians who still may be caught up in this slime.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I agree with you Dr. Bob, I too know some (a very few) folks who I am convinced are saved and they are still playing around with it. However, for the life of me, I can't understand it. I have read a great deal about this subject. A lot of their own books, not just what Christians say about them. It just boggles my mind that a thoughtful Christian, even a young one could be fooled by it.
     
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    I would have added the following to the last option, or put it in by itself: NOR EVER WILL BE. The lack of the option in the poll means I'll state it here [​IMG]

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    Hey Pete [​IMG] Sorry about the ommission. Never assume anything, but I didn't even even consider anyone joining now! lol
     
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    That is disputable, and has been done so. No need to relive previous threads on the subject.
     
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    I agree Johnv, This dead horse has been beat long enough. Neither side is going to be changed by all this. Surely there are subjects that need Baptist's attention more than these endless agruments.
     
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    I'm sorry if you long-timers (on the board) are tired of the battle and if you want to talk about something else that is fine too. However, there is one thing I would comment on and that is that the "horse ain't dead" and as long as it is alive and kicking then we need to keep beating it. Masonry is a cancer on the body of Christ (the church not the Savior) and it needs to be excised. I would rather have a fully ordained Roman Catholic Bishop in my pulpit than a menber of the Masonic Lodge and I mean that with every fiber of my being. Masonry is evil and those who practice it are practicing evil. I am a very nice guy (you might not be able to tell it from this ;) )
     
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    What, specifically, makes you say it is so evil?
     
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    I voted yes because I use Mason Jars for canning.
    Just kidding.

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    Just for trivia information, Mason City, Iowa is a city that was founded by Masonic Lodge.
     
  17. Johnv

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    I would rather have a fully ordained Roman Catholic Bishop in my pulpit than a menber of the Masonic Lodge and I mean that with every fiber of my being.
    First of all, is there such thing as a partially ordained Catholic Bishop? :eek:

    Masonry is evil and those who practice it are practicing evil.
    Based on the conversations from other threads about the subject, the only things that might be of issue would be the taking of oaths and the keeping of secrets. I can see how those things might be compromising (the latter would be for me), but that's a far cry from calling it evil. Being an SBC person myself, I subscribe to the SBC's view, which is that being a member of a Masonic lodge need not necesserily comromise one's faith, and that it leaves the decision to do so to the individual.

    I am a very nice guy (you might not be able to tell it from this )
    Of this I have no doubt. If you were any nicer, you'd make make Mother Theresa look like Cruella DeVille ;)
     
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    It is a religion, it teaches religious principles, it teaches how to get to heaven. It does this in a manner that is NOT Christian. I call that evil. A false religion, or ANY organization that has as its PRIMARY characteristics concepts that are diametrically opposed to scripture cannot be an organization that should be acceptable to Christians.

    Specifically, I will just give you a few of their own statements and you tell me if it is Christian or Anti-Christian.

    From the Kentucky Monitor by Henry Pirtle
    "When is a Man a Mason? ...When he knows that down in his heart every man is as noble, as vile, as divine, as diabolic, and as lonely as himself. When he find good in every faith that helps any man to lay hold of divine things and sees majestic meanings in life whatever the name of that faith may be… Such a man has found the only real secret of Masonry, and the one which it is trying to give to all the world."

    The subtlety itself ought to be one of Satan's crowning achievements.
    Another example from the same book talking about the "Book", could be the Bible but might be the Koran or any religious book representing the members of the lodge.

    "The three great lights of Masonry are the Holy Bible, the Square, and the Compasses/ …My Brother, in placing this Book upon our altar, we do not ask you to place your faith to any particular creed, but that you consider it as a symbol of the eternal Book of the Will of God."
    "…the one Volume… Take its divine light into your very soul AND YOU WILL BE THEREBY ENABLED to mount from the humble estate of your earthly nature to the glorious heights of God's eternal Truth." (Caps mine for emphasis)

    Same book: A Mason leading the ceremony talks to the initiate.

    "There you stood without our portals, on the threshold of this new Masonic life, in darkness, helplessness, and ignorance. Having been wandering among the errors and covered over with the pollutions of the outer and profane world, you came inquiringly to our doors, seeking the new birth, and asking a withdrawal of the veil which concealed the divine truth from your uninitiated sight. And here, as with Moses at the burning bush, the solemn admonition is given. "Put off they shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground."

    I can give you quotes all day long from their own writings that are so full of blasphemy and arrogance and denial of Christianity but if that last statement doesn't send chills down your spine then you aren't interested in the real TRUTH.

    A apologize if I sounded rude, I sincerely did not mean to, I just wanted to sound VERY sure and adament. Freemasonry attempts to be a religious philosophy which is clearly not Christian and therefore clearly WRONG.
     
  19. jimslade

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    Freemasonary- BAD

    Masons- GOOD- need to find a good one to fix my house.
     
  20. Johnv

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    Artimaus, I perssonally don't see those statements are either endorsing Christianity or not endorsing it. However, I understand why someone WOULD see it from your point of view.
     

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