Matt. 7:24-27 and Lordship

Good summary. I agree. I would add special not that the passage we are looking at begins with "Therefore.." Why is it there for?

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

It is not the "sayers" that enter, but the doers.

 

canadyjd:

Defining Lordship Salvation Dr. MacArthur says the Sermon on the Mount contains, “pure gospel.” (The Gospel According to Jesus [Revised & Expanded Edition], p. 203.)

Do we find any mention of His death, burial and resurrection in the Sermon on the Mount? Do we find the cross, justification by faith, or new birth? Do we find any clear John 3:16 messages in the Sermon on the Mount?

The Sermon on the Mount can reveal to a lost man his sin condition. The Sermon on the Mount will show all men that they are not righteous and fall short of the glory of God. The Sermon on the Mount may bring conviction. Where, however, in the Sermon on the Mount do we find, as Lordship advocates claim a “pure gospel” message?

I wrote an article that address this very issue.

Is the Sermon on the Mount “Pure Gospel?”


LM

 

Yes, which is why we must respond to the gospel in order to have or receive faith. Again, right up front, "faith that is alone is dead."

skypair

 

First, it seems by what Christ said here that these people were doing. They prophesied, they cast out devils, and did many works. So in this case, it seems that the doers were left out.

But Christ specifically said that only he that did the will of the Father. Not just doing miracles would serve to get you into eternal life, but doing the will of the Father.

What is the will of the Father?

Mar 3:35 For whoever does the will of God, he is my brother and sister and mother."

Joh 7:17 If anyone's will is to do God's will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority.

Joh 6:28 Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?"
Joh 6:29 Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."

Php 2:13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

So not all doers will enter heaven, but only those who did the will of the Father. Since it is God who works in us to will and to do, then truly salvation is completely the work of God apart from man.

 

In the Sermon on the Mount do we find any mention of His death, burial and resurrection in the Sermon on the Mount? Do we find the cross, justification by faith, or new birth? Do we find any clear John 3:16 messages in the Sermon on the Mount?

The Sermon on the Mount can reveal to a lost man his sin condition. The Sermon on the Mount will show all men that they are not righteous and fall short of the glory of God. The Sermon on the Mount may bring conviction. Where, however, in the Sermon on the Mount do we find, as Lordship advocates claim a “pure gospel” message?


LM

 

PRECISELY!!

Yes! "Ordering one's life" is an apt description of repenting and committing oneself to God!

Not necessarily. "Behave" does not equal "believe" any more that "works" = "trust." Do you see the difference? What is the "foundation" of belief/trust? That is the issue.

This is problematic from the POV that Jesus came into the OT dispensation but it was actually Paul's, Peter's, John's, etc. epistles that defined what 'words' we should obey.

I know this is a "technicality," canady. But it helps us consider that the OT saints were "saved" very much differently than the NT saints in that they did not die with Jesus at the cross.

skypair