Max lucado

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  1. Berean

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    I have a question concerning Max Lucado. At one time (and maybe still) I believe he was pastor of a large Church of Christ in the Dallas area. Yesterday at my church, a large SBC we passed out to everyone attending a paperback copy of his book HE STILL MOVES STONES. My question is this. Although I have read none of his writtings it has been my experience in attending and being a member of a SBC for the past 35 years that the two denominations disagree on Acts 2:38 to the extent of calling each other names. Has Mr Lucado made a statement pertaining this?
     
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    I really don't know, Berean, but I question the wisdom of handing out a book written by a pastor from a denomination that denies the Trinity.
     
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    Our senior associate pastor's daughter attended Max's church for a number of years while she was in San Antonio and my brother attended when he was there in the Navy (although he only went a few times thanks to having a very sick child and having a deployment). I think there would have been something said if there was any doctrine that was off - but I'm not 100% sure.

    OK - Just looked it up and it's an independent church from what I can see. It says it's autonomous. Also they clearly, in their 'What we believe' state that the 3 persons of the Godhead are God:

     
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    They used to be associated with the Church of Christ denomination but a few years ago they became a non-denominational church.
     
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    He used to be. Don't know about today.



    A GREAT book, in my Baptist opinion.



    [​IMG] I'm just sayin'!"



    Thirty years ago, the local Church of Christ people in my hometown believed that baptism was essential for salvation. I don't what they believe today. I have never heard any name-calling from them. Only from one Baptist to another. :saint:



    I've read so many of his books, it'll make both your and my head spin.

    I was on my 4th or 5th book before I realized he wasn't a Baptist. Someone mentioned it to me in passing. All of the philosophies, doctrines, and Bible interpretations that he presents are consistant with what I believe as a Baptist.

    He simply teaches Christ and Him crucified.
     
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    I do know that at one time Mac Lucado did believe that water baptism was a requirement for salvation. Whether he may have modified his belief on this I do not know.

    I do know that he is an extremely talented author who's ability to make biblical characters come to life in modern terminology and apply their lives to my own has helped me grow as a Christian.

    Before you condemn him I would suggest you read at least one of his books. I disagree with him on the importance of baptism, but I recognize a spirit led author.

    I am in the middle of "Cast of Characters" right now and I can't read more than a little each day before being overwhelmed with the need to pray and meditate on the scripture involved.
     
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    Our previous pastor once said, Max Lucado was more baptist then a lot of baptists he knew.
     
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    Their church has a PDF on baptism that I quickly looked through and found this in it:

    "Please understand, it is not the act that saves us. But it is the act that symbolizeshow we are saved! The invisible work of the Holy Spirit is visibly dramatized in the
    water. "

    Sounds like they don't believe that baptism is necessary for salvation but that it's a very important step in a believer's life.

    Here's the page with the link to the PDF: http://www.oakhillschurchsa.org/LoadPageAction.do?mode=view&editId=83
     
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    Just wanted to add to something I said earlier. I used to have a lot of his books and I've found that his books are much more like the kind of motivational "Footprints" kind of books you find in truck stops than any serious kind of theology or book about the nature of God or growing in holiness.

    To put it simply, he is to theology what Thomas Kincade is to art: a nice piece of fluff that makes you feel good, but doesn't really say anything.
     
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    I wish to comment on your 'tag-line', if I may.
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    man...just had this great post and my internet froze up...oy vey!

    Anyhoo, I like Max Lucado. He's solid where it counts. I've used him for many studies and enjoy recommending his works. (They helped me to grow as a Christian.)

    I don't know any writer/thinker/theologian who I don't disagree on some issue. When asked I address it from my perspective, flesh out there's, and move on. I've never found a place where Brother Lucado and I disagree on an essential of the Christian faith.

    I very much appreciate his ministry! :)
     
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    I guess JohnD is looking for academic writing. That's not Max Lucado. Rather, his writings are practical in that they help the reader to relate scriptural truths to every day life. I'll take that anyday over the academic, boring, stuff that I had to read in seminary.
     
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    hehe, I'd take the "academic, boring, stuff" anyday to the fluff and patronizing shallowness of most contemporary Christian literature...:D



    j/k about the "fluff and patronizing" part...;)

    just comes with the territory when you've got a terminal degree I guess :D
     
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    I've read just about everything Christian Living book he has written. A great Christian writer and storyteller.

    In fact, I'm going through the second volume of Grace for the Moment devotional this year.

    He does not subscribe to baptismal regeneration.
     
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    Not academic, just something that isn't the theological equivilent of Radio Disney.

    I don't think that's true. Frankly, I don't want the god that Lucado is selling. He has a very low view of the nature and character of God.

    Don't get me wrong, if you like that sort of thing, then that's certainly up to you, but I don't see any difference between a Max Lucado book and sitting around eating cake and ice cream all day.
     
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    Thanks for the information Annsni, it sounds like I agree with him on baptism now.

    To each his own JDF, but I like Thomas Kincade a lot to. In fact I like his work a lot more than some of the "classics" like Renoir and Rembrandt I have seen in galleries.

    But then I like cake and ice cream to.

    Perhaps I should try to find Radio Disney.

    I want the God that Lucado is describing, a God who cares about me and wants to be a part of my life. I God that I can not only study and learn about but commune with and learn to know.
     
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    And that's a matter of personal taste. I prefer art with a little more meat on the bones.

    And if you eat enough of it, you'll get sick and die.

    You can have him.
     
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    Not everyone is a deep theologian nor does every believer need to only read deep theological stuff. Max Lucado is not shallow nor is he compromising the Gospel. He just does not write a systematic theology book. There is nothing wrong with that. No one can show that he has compromised the Gospel - and his God is our God. The comment "you can have Max Lucado's god" is a pretty strong statement, IMO. Might want to watch out that you're not blaspheming the Lord.
     
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    It's a huge jump to say someone is shallow...and then to say they're "selling" a different god.

    I'll allow the 1st statement unchallenged...but the 2nd statement simply is not true.
     
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    Do we expect everyone to come to God ready to eat steak and potatoes? Really?

    What about the several places in the NT where writers talk about baby food leading to solid food as an illustration of our Christian maturity. If it doesn't work for you fine, but maybe this is a case of "if you don't have anything nice to say..."

    Wow, how ridiculous for you to say that. He is talking about the same God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit you and I both believe in.

    Why do so many of us want to have a contest at how "right" we can be?

    There is a drastic difference between cake theology and heresy. You are being overly critical.
     

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