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Mccain Suspends Campaign To Focus On Economy; Wants Debate Delay

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Sep 24, 2008.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Neither am I. Neither is McCain, Biden, Obama, or Palin.
     
  2. LadyEagle

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    Then you have not been paying attention to the many threads about Obama's voting records on the Born Alive Act. :tear:
     
  3. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I suspect this is a political move by McCain. Does he really think the Senate is going to solve the crisis on Friday?

    Looks good - no substance- typical politics.

    Let's just move the debate to the Capitol corridors and hold it during a recess.


    BTW - how did abortion come up again in a thread about the Friday debate?
     
  4. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Moderator note:

    I just merged the two Friday debate threads into one thread since the same topics were being discussed in both.
     
  5. LeBuick

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    What's worse is the Senate will be off Friday night so if McCain is working he will be by his lonesome.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/25/us/politics/25campaign.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

    Not to mention, the word is the bulk of the legislation has been worked out and they only have minor details left to work through. For Obama and McCain to jump in the discussion at this point would only serve to move them backwards so they can catch them up.
     
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    All they are going to do on the Senate floor is debate anyway :).

    I stand by my campaign avatar (not as much as I was), but McCain is wrong on this one. It makes him look afraid.
     
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    :thumbs:

    Good point, maybe they should just televise the Senate discussions. They've been fairly entertaining if you ask me. There was one female Senator who kept yelling, "my constituents want blood!"
     
  8. Revmitchell

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    Cynicism sees him as afraid. Nothing legitimate.
     
  9. Alive in Christ

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    TinyTim,

    Oh, he'll work. Of course he will. He'll do his job as U.S. Senator just as he regularly does.

    He'll rush in during roll call...announce *PRESENT* at the appointed time, and then leave to go to his real job....

    Trying to dupe people into thinking he cares about them.



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    Dragonfly,

    You've got to be kidding. Looking bad?

    Back before this current situation Obama was giving fluff speeches filled with a whole lot of nothing mixed with equal amounts of emptyness.

    Meanwhile, John McCain was having town hall meetings giving straight answers and solutions to real problems. McCain thrives on that sort of thing, because he has answers.

    If Obama was there....

    We need change!

    Change

    I havent figured that out yet.

    Ummmm...after I'm elected and the changing begins!


    And on and on it goes...



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  11. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    And bias sees him as courageous. Nothing legitimate.


    Me, cynical about politicians? Never :).
     
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    KenH,

    He's on his way back there right now. Doing his job.

    He said once that he'd rather lose an election than lose a war.

    He is now proving that doing whats best for the United States of America is more important to him than than possibly losing a few percentage points in some pre-election tracking poll.


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  13. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    You really don't think that this is a political move on his part? Politicians are moved by one motivation - politics.
     
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    I wondering why the debate is even necessary.

    Here in Michigan Obama is running ads on TV and the radio almost constantly.

    But they are not issue ads. They are only "McCain bad" ads.

    If Obama is concerned about issues why doesn't he put some substance into his ads?

    I think that Obama only wants this debate because it is an opportunity to put out his droning "change" hope" drivel without having to pay for the air time.

    Anyway, is anyone seriously undecided between McCain and Obama at this point?
     
  15. Pastor Larry

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    You dont' want to insert presidential politics, but aren't you among those who are blaming Bush for the problem? You can't have it both ways. If a president is to lead on this issue, then it is a presidential issue. If it isn't a presidential issue, then you can't blame Bush for it.

    Apparently he doesn't feel that enough to have the series of townhall meetings that McCain suggested. He was too frightened for that. He appears not to really want to debate.

    You think Bush is not telling the truth most of the time, so I have to wonder why you suddenly cite him here.

    The truth is that there are a lot of complex issues involved, but if you look at the companies affected directly by this, they are very few. Even among the DJ companies, there are very few that are directly affected. The spill over affect due to the news cycles is pretty big, and the market today is driven by poor investing philosophies. As one guy said the other night, the market is a casino these days. And this is the result of it.

    The "fundamentals of the economy" is not the mortgage business. While there are bad things happening there, they are due to bad choices by lenders and buyers. Easy credit overinflated the housing market, and the result was that housing values skyrocketed with nothing behind them but easy credit. Then when the credit was gone, the values fell, but the ARMs and balloons didn't.

    So it is more complex than these little soundbites of political attacks are making it. The truth is that the president has very little to do with this. Congress has a little more, but still not a whole lot. Companies made bad choices. And it is not the government's job to bail them out.

    Here's a thought: If the company holding my mortgage goes belly up, to whom do I owe my mortgage?
     
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    BIR, Thanks for your kind words and prayers. They are especially valuable at this season of my life. You remain an encouragement to me even though we don't see eye to eye on everything. I trust all is well with you and your family. I haven't seen you around here much lately.
     
  17. KenH

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    To whoever ends up being the custodian in reorganizing the business or wrapping up its business.

    I also have a question: Should mortagage-backed securities be banned? My answer is yes.
     
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    My answer is, It depends. Some mortgage backed securities are not risky. They are good investments.
     
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    So you think he should have gone on a late night comedy show to make jokes rather than going on a major news network to be interviewed about the issues...even if from a skewed point of view like CBS's? I guess the only thing worst for you guys would have been for John McCain to be interviewed on Fox News...right? :BangHead:
     
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    It may be, but unlike Obama, McCain has a reputation for reaching across the aisle on some key issues.
     
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