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Mega-Disaster in Arkansas Razorback Football

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  1. TomVols

    TomVols New Member

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    I personally don't think it will take being 0-12 to bring about Nutt's firing. I think he could get the axe with an 8-4 record next year. That will be seen as a step backwards, given the tumultuous atmosphere at ARK right now.

    Stefan was right. While ARK dominated my boys and I have to give them credit for that, ARK was not the best team in the West by the end of the year. LSU was.

    ARK and TENN were similar this year. Talented and in position to win some big games. ARK got some help from Vandy, SC, and Bama and eeked out those wins. TENN held off AFA and KY but could not close the deal against FLA and LSU (and fumbled away the Outback Bowl). ARK won some close scrums while TENN didn't. Both teams were on the razor's edge. ARK slid against WISC and what could've been a great season is slightly less (I'm sure the insurrection didn't cloud things at all during bowl prep....Broyles and the Springdale parents deserves some blame). OTOH, TENN had BCS and more in their grasp, and let it slip through their fingers with a play here and there.

    ARK's momentum from one of their best seasons in recent history is gone. Maybe a good recruiting class will help restore fortunes in Fayetteville. Nutt seems to be counting on as much given some of what I've read
     
    #21 TomVols, Jan 19, 2007
  2. KenH

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    That doesn't look likely. I saw one rating service that had the Hogs' recruits at only #39 in the nation(#10 in the SEC, I think).

    I am hopeful that Nutt will no longer be employed by the U of A within a few days.
     
    #22 KenH, Jan 19, 2007
  3. Bob Alkire

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    Didn't Nutt play qb at Ar.? In the papers down here, they were saying he had been trying to get the Al. job, any truth in that?

    39th might not be so bad, wasn't South Carolina 35th last year. Ar. isn't an easy place to recruit to. From Broyles on I don't recall Ar. being happy with there coach for more than a few years, kind of like Florida. Spurrier and Ray Graves are the only ones I know of that were able to keep the fan down here happy for long. We will see how this one will be in 5 or 6 years.
     
    #23 Bob Alkire, Jan 20, 2007
  4. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Nutt was at Arkansas, then he transferred to Oklahoma State.

    I don't know if he was interested in the Alabama job. If Saban hadn't taken the job it might have been interesting to see.

    The three top recruits in the state have committed to out of state teams. The two top recruits from last year's class have left the team. I don't see how a coach at the U of A can keep his job when he can't recruit the best recruits in a state that has a small recruiting base.
     
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  5. StefanM

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    By being Broyles' lapdog?
     
    #25 StefanM, Jan 20, 2007
  6. KenH

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    That's why it's a package deal, Stefan. They both must go.
     
    #26 KenH, Jan 20, 2007
  7. Bob Alkire

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    Isn't that one of the two main reason that Lou Holtz left Ar. The Coors beer deal and Ar. HS coaches didn't want their players going to play under him.
     
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  8. KenH

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    Yes, once you lose the support of the high school coaches a head coach at the U of A is pretty much done.
     
    #28 KenH, Jan 20, 2007
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    Ken, let's say you get your wish. Let's just say Nutt gets fired or resigns. Who does ARK get? Who would you want?
     
    #29 TomVols, Jan 22, 2007
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    Someone that can unite the fan base, such as Butch Davis.
     
    #30 KenH, Jan 22, 2007
  11. TomVols

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    Do you think he'd leave NC St for ARK? He just got there.
     
    #31 TomVols, Jan 22, 2007
  12. KenH

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    I think you meant North Carolina.

    I keep reading on message boards that Davis has a no buy out clause if he ever goes to the U of A.

    But I am afraid that reality is that the Hogs are stuck with Nutt for the 2007 season. I figure at best they will go 8-4(4-4 in the SEC) but that will keep Nutt in place for the 2008 season. I figure that will be a losing season. And Broyles should retire by then as the talk is that he wants to stay at the U of A until his 50th anniversary there. Then we'll see if Nutt can survive.

    Then again, anything less than 8-4 in 2007 could get Nutt pushed out the door.
     
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    Sorry, I meant NC for Butch.

    I believe Broyles will stay as long as he likes, and Nutt's days are numbered. 8-4 would be seen as a let-down and could cost him his job. Only thing is next year the West will be a little more of a toss-up.
     
    #33 TomVols, Jan 23, 2007
  14. Scott J

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    All this turmoil is turning what could have been a major step forward for Ark football into an implosion. Recruiting is suffering and considering how well everyone else is doing... the die may have already been cast no matter what Nutt does.

    I don't know Ken... but I think your expectations/frustrations have gotten the best of you. Your passing game was not Yale 1904. It wasn't great but be a little more realistic. Your choice at QB was a true Freshman that made mistakes and a guy that just isn't all that talented. An Arky that works with me said that the word on Mustain is that he wasn't close with the other players and sometimes gave them the impression he was better than they were. You had one good SEC caliber WR in Monk.

    If Nutt's idea was to take it slow on developing the passing game then he's right. He probably won 2 or 3 more games than you would have had you put the ball in either QB's hands.

    Part of me feels for Hog fans. Part of me says, "Go ahead, all you're doing is helping the Vols get more good players from west Tn and Arkansas".

    You guys are doing this to yourselves. Keep it up and you'll probably be able to run some of the other good in-state recruits off. What do you think might have influenced those 3 top players to go elsewhere? Could it have been overwhelming fan negativity, instability in the staff, or maybe loud mouth parents and players undermining the coaching staff publicly? Nutt can't be held accountable for everyone's stupidity you know?

    Not my team though so have at it.

    Back to Tom's question. Who exactly do you think wants to coach a team where parents run to the media and fans get disgruntled after a season where you competed for the conference title and might have gotten a shot at the national title if things had broken just a little different? Nutt did this by the way without benefit of a single recruiting class ahead of UF, LSU, USC, UT... and probably several others.
     
    #34 Scott J, Jan 24, 2007
  15. KenH

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    I could at least put up with Nutt until it was revealed that he started talking about having David Lee come on board and demoting Malzahn as soon as signing day was over last year. It is clear that Nutt only hired Malzahn to get Mitch Mustain and save his job for 2006. Now that the Hogs had a decent season he has saved his job for 2007. If things don't go nearly as well in 2007(which is what I expect) we'll have to see what he does to try to save his job for 2008.

    Nutt has destroyed his credibility and integry in my view. I don't think that the fan base can ever unite behind him again.
     
    #35 KenH, Jan 24, 2007
  16. Scott J

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    That's probably true. My friend said that alot of the chatboard consensus was that they'd like to be rid of Nutt even if they suffered a few bad seasons. Problem there is that you could still end up with a Ray Goff, Gerry Dinardo, or Gene Stallings... except that all of them coached in talent rich states where kids went to their school in spite of coaching incompetence. Arkansas, like Tn, doesn't have that luxury.
     
    #36 Scott J, Jan 31, 2007
  17. KenH

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    The leading sports columnist in Arkansas called Houston Nutt on the carpet today:

    www.wholehogsports.com/adg/181358/

    I think that it is great that someone in the media is finally holding Nutt to account for his horrible performance as the head coach of the Razorbacks and his treatment of Malzahn and some of the players on the team.
     
    #37 KenH, Feb 9, 2007
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