Mennonites, Anabaptists, Amish and us

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  1. Sminasian

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    What is the difference? I belong to a conservative, traditional, baptist church, kjv only. Last Sunday evening two young mennonites ladies attended the service.

    I thought baptists were much different than the mennonites? From what I read during a quick google search, the only difference between baptists and mennonites is that they believe salvation can be lost. It appears to me that there are only slight differences among all these faiths I listed. We are not THAT much different than the Amish or Anabaptists, either. At least I don't think so.
    Any one care to comment? I am confused here
     
  2. Squire Robertsson

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    First, Anabaptists are\were a continental wide movement. To describe them as a denomination is wildly inaccurate. German Baptists are their modern follow on.

    Mennonites are descended from Dutch Anabaptists lead by Menno Simons (1496-1561). The Amish formed in 1693 around Jacob Amman's efforts to reform the Mennonite church in Switzerland and South Germany.

    Yes, these folks are more Arminian in their soteriolgy than most Anglo-American Baptists. In many ways, they are closer to our Free Will Baptists. For purposes of membership in a local Baptist church, many Mennonites practice a three fold immersion vs. the Anglo-American standard single dunk.
     
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    RE: Post #1--

    No eternal security seems a serious breach for fellowship. If one does not know eternal security one does not know that salvation is of the Lord. Jesus saves, seals and keeps all believers forever.

    Whatever happened to Jude 3? The Way and The Faith have not changed nor have they need of revision.

    Even so, come Lord Jesus.

    Bro. James
     
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    Many Mennonites, Amish and Anabaptist are pacifists and hold to it with scriptural backing.
     
  5. Squire Robertsson

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    Historically, there hasn't been that much fellowship between the us and the Mennonites.
     
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    I cannot worship with a person or a group that denies one of the truths of the bible which is eternal savation. How can two walk together except they be agreed. IMO when a body of believers have true fellowship they are bonded by truths of scripture. Arminian theology, which is made up of freewill beliefs, rob God of his power to save and keep without man's help. A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
     
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    The Mennonites and Amish like to protect their own.....
     
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    They are probably more like Roman Catholics in that regard.....works based!
     
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    Read the Dordrecht Confession. That is what they believe.

    As to Eternal Security

     
  10. John Mark

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    There was a group of Mennonites who came occasionaly to the IFB church I went to as a teenager. They really liked the music, because they didn't have instruments in their church. My thoughts are that they were just like many Baptists concerning works. They did not believe in earning salvation, but expected to see good works from the saved. As I remember, except for their societal rules they were very much like baptists in their theology. I actually thought they did believe in eternal security, while the Amish did not.
     
  11. John Mark

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    One off topic note about the Amish that I think is intresting. They will not use mules because they believe that they are an unnatural creation. All of the rules about only wearing black, not wearing buttons, only using horses to plow fields, are meant to keep everyone at the same level in order to preserve the social order. If someone bought a tractor and could plow more than someone else he would earn more money and be more important. If they bought a flashy new suit, they might think they are better than everyone else. These rules keep everyone the same.
     
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    believe the Me,,onites acknowledged the Gospel of Christ, but do the Amish?
    Aren't they more akin to right living/high standards than saved by grace/faith alone?
     
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    I don't have any real first hand experience with either group. I do know Amish young people aren't allowed to join the local church and thus be under its discipline until their late teens.
    A lot of what we observe about their practices is the Amish and conservative Mennonite reaction to worldliness.
     
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    watched a show on the Amish, learned that at age 18, ALL Amish given one time offer to stay in the Camp, or else forever live in the World, never to be seen or spoken of again!
     
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    There are different orders of Amish so rules and customs differ. We have a friend who lives in Lancaster County PA, actually right on the edge of the "city" of Lancaster. His neighbors in the back are Amish but he is on a street with a few non-amish. Anyway, our friend was raised in an Amish family. His Dad decided that he needed a car for work so the dad was given the boot but our friend being under the age at the time could if he wanted get back into the Amish community.

    Just about everything about this person is Amish from his name to his work ethic to his carpentry and farm skills. Interesting thing is his wife is a 7th day adventist and she really has few kind words for the Amish.

    In my opinion the PA Amish are more of a lifestyle group. It is not like a church you just join. In Lancaster there are many other churches, some of them big Lutheran and Baptist. In our area which is north of Allentown not much Amish but some Mennonite. It is interesting to see them (Amish) work and interact with each other. Ive noticed that at the New Holland livestock auction they are just as shrewed with their business dealings as anyone else.

    Every time I go to Cabelas in Hamburg we see many Mennonites shopping there.
     
  16. OldRegular

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    You might find the following interesting!

    And then there is this:

     
  17. go2church

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    Like Baptists, there are different kind of Mennonites. Some more strict then others, almost Amish and others not. There is also a variety when it comes to theology. My experience with them is they were all non-violent, but not all pacifists.
     

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