Michael Jackson--all is vanity

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  1. Major B

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    The Celebration of Insignificance In the Life And Death of Michael Jackson
    By Brother Charles T. Buntin

    “Vanity of vanities, all is vanity, says the preacher…”(Ecclesiastes 1:2). What a spectacle that declares the truth of these words has been shown over the last few days. Poor, sad Michael Jackson, the King of Pop—the King of nothing, We grieve for his family and for his fans, and we should weep for ourselves because this whole circus is so vain and meaningless. We in the wealthy West obsess over sports figures and entertainment personalities and ignore their sad insignificance in the ultimate scheme of things. We emulate and fawn over people who will be virtually unknown in 100 years, and whose accomplishments will be recognized as totally meaningless long before that. What was the number one hit song in 1941? What were its words? We don't know. What was the best picture or its runners-up in 1941? A real movie buff might know, but the words of a crippled and half burned out politician, FDR "...Today, December 7th, 1941, a day that shall live in infamy...", launched a crusade to preserve liberty. In considering the career of a man nicknamed “Dutch,” a mostly "b" actor, I doubt if anyone except a champion old movie buff can quote even one line from the pictures he made [except “win one for the Gipper…”], but when President Reagan said, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall...", he was giving witness to a fact that was already true and would soon to obvious to all. “Ronald Reagan won the cold war without firing a shot,” said Margaret Thatcher, British Prime Minister during the Reagan years. Hardly anyone remembers who were the great sports stars of the 1950s, but a tired woman who refused to move to the back of a bus in Birmingham started a revolution, and the courage of Rosa Parks lives on. A teacher, a caregiver, a soldier or marine walking point, an airman fixing a jet engine, a jet pilot flying a mission, a policeman or fireman running INTO the twin towers, a preacher who holds souls in his hands, the effects of these acts and real actors will be significant long after their names will be forgotten, and in the case of the soul surgeon, the significance will be eternal.

    Poor Michael Jackson, poor fans, poor paparazzi, they crave worship and adulation that no human deserves (or they desire some mere human to worship and adore), especially not the masters of the trivial. I cringe when I hear an entertainment film, or a music CD described as “important.” When I hear the sad, vain, and trivial song “We Are the World,” I wonder if any of the entertainers who sang it realize that in the ultimate scheme of things, it did nothing but make some rich westerners feel less guilty—the sad nations it purported to help are in worse condition than they were then. It is a sad but true fact that as we pillow our heads tonight somewhere around 65% of the people in this world will go to bed hungry and scared. It is a tragic but inescapable fact that dozens of wars rage as you read this, and all of the guilt contributions from the overflowing wealth of the tortured souls of entertainers and other celebrities cannot and will not change any of that. Human beings have an incredible ability and inclination to murder the innocent, ravage the helpless, and enslave the free, and only the protectors given us as a gift from God (Romans 13:1-7) can even slow that down. Some think man is an angel, but as the Irish sergeant in “Gettysburg” said, “If man is an angel, he’s a killer angel.”

    The truth is, that even the acts of soldiers and kings, doctors and nurses, scientists and politicians are in the long run incapable of fixing the human problem. Our problem is spiritual. We are all afflicted with a heart that is desperately wicked (Jeremiah 17:9), and from inside the souls of man comes all manner of evil (Mat 15:18-19), and the best efforts of the best of mankind can only restrain the rot and ease the pain for a time. Only the words and deeds and power of One who came to us as an obscure Jewish Carpenter can end the hurt and bring in righteousness and justice, as He will when He brings in the Kingdom. And that kingdom will not be inaugurated by vain human arms, vain human charity, or vain human temporary peace treaties, and certainly not by sad, afflicted, soul-tortured and ultimately helpless entertainers. The Kingdom’s consummation will begin with a trumpet, a shout, and an archangel’s voice, and will end with the destruction of the old universe and the coming of a new universe. In Eternity, neither the hits of Michael Jackson, nor praises to the heroism of the protectors will be sung. Rather, the songs of Revelation 4 and 5, and the praises of Isaiah 6, and of the psalms, and maybe, “Amazing Grace” will be the anthems we hear. That is important—little else is, because the ultimate significance for any human being is to bow the knee to the Name that is above all names, and to worship Him who alone is worthy of all worship. I am not the judge of men, but Michael Jackson, raised as a Jehovah’s Witness, exposed to counselors of all sorts of human religion, most likely left this world without coming to know and worship this One Who is the only One worthy of that worship, and if so, that is the saddest reality of all.

    This essay may anger some of you, it may offend others. But the Truth I am bound to tell is this: it was our Savior and Lord, Jesus Christ, who said, “I am the way, the truth and the life, and no one comes to the Father except through me,” (John 14:6), and who also said, (Mat 4:10) "…it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.'""

    What a display of the vanity of men this week has been.
     
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    "If any man could rise from the dead today, it would be Michael Jackson!!"
    Screamed a fan. I heard this as I watched the news this evening.
     
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    I've read from some that MJ is God. Others have said he'll be teaching the angels to dance. Sucl lunacy.
     
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    Major, do you have a link? I would like to share this on facebook.
     
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    Children are often blind to their parents faults. Even if they do see their faults, they love them anyway--usually. He probably gave the girl whatever she wanted, and to her that is being a good daddy. Besides, she isn't a boy, and so he probably never molested her.
     
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    Or maybe he provided a loving, caring environment for her and showed her that he loved her through his actions. You know, neither us of know how good or bad of a father he was to the girl. For you to assume that she only thinks he was a good father because he gave the girl whatever she wanted is pretty judgemental.
     
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    Well, dangling a kid over a balcony to tease the paparazzi is no way to show the world parental fitness.

    The adult Michale Jackson was a creep. And Jon-Marc is 100% correct. I worked with juvenile delinquents for 9 years, and I know first-hand a child will defend an abusive parent to the death.
     
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    Link? I am on FACEBOOK--just type in Charles T. Buntin in your friend search thingy.
     
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    hanging a baby out the wondow and putting itin danger of death doesn't seem like a loving caring father to me.
     
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    One stupid incident is not the totality of a person's parenting. Have you ever done something that in retrospect makes you cringe? Probably not. :BangHead:
     
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    I never hung my baby off a balcony, open window, or ledge, put my childs life in danger. Have you?
     
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    You've put your child's life in danger more than you want to admit. If you were perfectly honest with yourself, and us, you'd admit that holding your baby out on a balcony is a safer situation than even placing your baby in a car and going for a drive. If I were to hold my child over a balcony like he did, I have a reasonable confidence in myself that I'd be able to hold 20 pounds of baby and not drop it. When I'm in a car, I can't control the behavior of other drivers.
     
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    You have a sick sense of humor -- if that's some kind of joke. If you are actually serious then you need to have a psychological evaluation.
     
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    I'm very serious. Are you serious? Do you seriously think that if I were to hold my child over a balcony (which I don't plan on doing) that I would let my child go? Trust me, if I were to hold my child over a balcony, the only way the child is coming out of my hands is if I'm dead. Driving in a car, on the other hand, is putting lives at risk everytime. Automobile accidents are the leading cause of death for people 1-25 years old.
     
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    I'm saying that any parent who dangles their child over a balcony demonstrates risky and stupid conduct. They aren't worthy of being entrusted with children.

    Driving children around in a car is not considered risky behavior. Responsible parents do it all the time. It's rather unavoidable, and it is routine. MJ's "routine behavior" such as his balcony act was foolish and child-endangering. That particular deed was done in public -- who knows what other weird behavior he displayed in private with his children.
     
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    And my point (which prompted you to tell me I needed a psychological evaluation) is that driving your kid in a car is a more risky situation than holding your kid over a balcony. The facts show us that it is true. One (the balcony thing) appears riskier and obviously draws attention to the person doing it, but in actuality it is less risky than driving in a car.

    The other point is that we don't know how he treated his kids in private. Give it about 10-15 years and I'm sure we'll have a book from one of the kids. Then we may have some insight. Until then it's all just speculation and to condemn him for doing something that is less risky than what we all do every day is just stupid.
     
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    Matt, since you're so bent on defending the dangling incident then I would be interested in your defense of his other actions. Is it fine then to admit on t.v. in an interview that you sleep with children in you bedroom? (IF so, please have your kids stay away from mine) How about all the pedophile allegations and criminal charges brought against him? How about the numerous police records which confirm this upside down and backwards? How about the fact that musicians have left his tours mid way because they couldn't stomach what they were witnessing, but could not partake in from arms length? How about the fact that he was taking trips all the time to Brazil and other locations that profit from their child sex slaves. This guy was a 100% bonifide case study perfect pedophile: the Neverland Ranch (child lure), the child like imature demeanour, the crazy upbringing........it goes on? Would you send your kids to MJs house for a little sleepekins in MJs bedroom? Not me, because I wouldn't want to have to deal with my actions after the fact. This guy broke every single rule that a grown man should not break but somehow his celebrity status and wealth made it all OK! Amazing isn't it? Please extract your head from your political correctness. Sometime things are just as they seem, and this guy brought weird to a whole new level. Defend away, now this I can't wait to read!

    Oh and hanging a kid over a balcony is a voluntary act involving risk, much like skydiving, skiing, motocross riding, but that is a risk you usually take upon yourself and not others. Driving a car is a necessity in our culture, a very calculalated activity with numerous save gaurds built in. I'm sure that if dangling a child over the edge of a balcony compared to driving a car were examined from a statistically view point, and one was to measure the inherent danger of both activities on a number of injuries / death occurance to frequency of occurance then the dangling would surely be a more dangerous activity by far. But then we'll probably never get that kind of information because MOST OF DON'T DANGLE OUR CHILDREN OFF BALCONIES NOW DO WE! Really man, make a better arguement when you feel the need to defend such rediculous behaviour.
     
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    This is a classic example of a bad argument made by numbers. You cannot legitimately compare "babies hanging off balconies" with "babies in cars" because the samples are two vastly diverse samples. There aren't a lot of studies that I know of about the fatality or accident rates of holding babies off balconies for the simple reason that virtually no one does it because it is so absurd. There isn't a big enough sample to study, much less to compare it with something that is done billions of times a day (with a statistically negligible accident/fatality rate).

    If the numbers were comparable, then the "facts" might bear your point out, or they might not. But as it stands, your argument is fallacious.
     
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    you may have been neglectful and endangered your child's life, but I have not. And he did it on purpose, even worse.
     
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