Michael Moore and his Insurance Movie

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  1. TBLADY

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    I watched Micahel Moore on a show where he was applauded by both liberals and conservatives on his new movie about health care in America.

    The interviewer made the comment that she was imprssed with how the moive was "non political" and how it was unbias....with NO agenda....when it came to Democrates or Republicians. How wrong she was! I am not sure if I was the only one who noticed or was able to read between the lines, I sure hope not..... but far from it.

    I honestly believe Michael Moores movie endevor and release comes at a time to get all Americans feeling our health care is a scam and that we need an immediate overhaul to the health care system.

    Who better to do that than Hilary Clinton.....I am sure is what is on Michael Moores mind, and the driving force and agenda for his movie. I wouldn't put it past Hilary to have paid for the whole production of the movie, just so she will be elected next election.

    Don't be fooled by Michael Moores movie, yes there are holes in the system...but now or in the near future isn't the time to fix them. Let's at least wait till Hilary isn't running.

    God help us!
     
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    Moore said his purpose was to foment a revolution to eliminate insurance companies from America and move towards a universal health system. Most dems and a couple of the republican candidates support or give lip service to such.

    The next time Moore does a documentary without bias or agenda will be the first time. And that's his right. But be honest about it.
     
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    If and when Moore has a heart attack, where do you think he will go for his heart transplant. Cuba? I think not.
     
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    If not now, and if not the near future, then when?
     
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    Hey TBLady,

    This is a great post and you raised some very good points. I have not seen the movie so I can't comment on its content. However, I would not put the things that you mentioned beyond Moore.
     
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    The question is not when to make the system better. The question is how to go about doing it. The national socialized medicine that Mrs. Clinton and other Dems (and some RINO's) support is surely not the way. Get government out of the healthcare business and let good old American capitalism and the free market run its course and the best healthcare for the best (most beneficial) price will rise to the top. The same thing goes for education.
     
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    Like after the election when we know Hilary or one of the other liberals isn't going to be president.
     
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    Interesting and sickening how some play politics with people's ability to get health care in this country.

    As for the movie "Sicko", I plan to see it soon after it debuts.
     
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    You know MP I was thinking the same thing. As for "Sicko". I will be seeing it as well.

    TB, how can you be so sure of what is on Michael Moore's mind? He's been talking about doing a documentary on the state of the American healthcare system since he did "Bowling for Columbine". For those of you who don't know that was even before "Farenheit 911". But, you're probably right, he made the movie only to get Hilary in the oval office.
     
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    Average wait time in Canada from diagnosis to surgical or therapeutic treatment? About 4 months.

    Wait time when my former pastor was diagnosed with cancer? 1 day. And that was how long it took him to pack and drive to Anchorage.

    Socialism has always failed, when compared to a free market.
     
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    I plan to watch it to. Personally, I'm not a big fan of Medicaid or whatever it's called. Not the one for old people, the one for everybody who ain't got money. Medicare? Medicaid? Something? However, I plan to go on Medicaid soon. Health insurance for me is outrageous. I can't afford it now as it is, considering it would cost me on my own around $800 a month for a decent health insurance plan. After my upcoming heart surgery(one week), it'll likely cost around $1200 a month. And I'm 25 years old. I can't afford that. I don't have many choices on what I can and can't do regarding medical care. Fortunately, I've been blessed since I've been on my own, and the surgery I'll be having I qualified for finanical aid. So instead of having to pay the full amount of open heart surgery, I'll be paying 10% plus doctor's costs. My surgeon is going to operate for free, leaving me with the anesthesiologist who may choose to lower his costs knowing that I'm on financial aid for this. We talk about this free economy like it's always a great thing, but for some of us it isn't.
     
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    I didn't realize the government was still regulating the medical industry, or the insurance industry. And prices are at an all time high.

    I am fortunate enough to be able to afford health insurance for my family. Having children keep you at the doctor's office. But I work in a hospital that cares for many indigent and lower income patients, and I know that with out some sort of government assistance, many of them would die of easily treatable conditions such as pnuemonia, sepsis, or malnutrition.

    Our big push is on preventive care- keeping our patients pro-active about their health so that they don't have to use the higher end resources such as the emergency room or the ICU. If the government would ever give a dang about the state of everyday people in this country, it could dramatically cut it's Medicare/SSI budget by putting programs in place to keep people healthy, such as early childhood nutritional intervention.
     
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    The movies deals with people do not and who already HAVE health care and the problems within. Basically giving as little care as possible. So it isn't like people don't have health care already.

    My problem is the SCARE tatic being used to get Hilary nominated using such a movie and then turning around and making it look or saying YEP we have no agenda, the movie isn't political. Give me a break!

    I guess if you want Hilary to be our next president I can understand your comment LOL
     
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    Sounds as if it's working for you as it should. People volunteering instead of being forced under threat to do something.

    Want to see costs reduced? Instead of more government action, demand less. There is very little the government needs their grubby little paws into.

    My wife's grandfather was a surgeon and was chief of staff at a major regional hospital. He often treated people in exchange for a chicken or whatever the people had, if anything. Before he died, he saw it become nearly impossible, due to governmental red tape and interference, to operate in such a manner.
     
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    But why wouldn't Humana pay for it?

    Because they're exercising a form of the socialized health care Moore is advocating. They're the first indication of what a totally socialized health care system will be like.

    Socialized health care in England has two systems: the one for those that can pay, and the one for those that can't.

    My wife got osteitis pubis; the ligaments between her pubic bones deteriorated, and the bones were basically grinding against each other. Our military hospital didn't have the specialists to take care of her, so we were referred off-base to the local English hospital. When I asked them how long before she would be seen, I was told six months--and that was for the initial consult and examination.

    British hospitals are not in good condition. You get great nurses and doctors, because they want to be there, because they're certainly not being paid enough. But the government is another form of an health care organization; in order to be able to pay for equipment and facilities and personnel, they have to make cuts in other areas. So infections in typical British hospitals are twice the number they are here in America, because they can't keep the janitorial staff to keep the rooms clean.

    Michael Moore has only seen the "up" side of the socialized health care system, because he's considered "upper tier."

    Give the camera to the average working stiff, and let's see what it's really like.
     
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    Nope - wrong.
    The insurance carriers care about one thing. To loosely quote Gordon Gekko from the movie Wall Street: "It's all about bucks, Kid. The rest is just conversation."

    Regards,
    BiR
     

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