MIssing Day

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  1. Salamander

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    I received this in a recent email:

    "NASA & THE BIBLE

    Thought this was pretty amazing and interesting!!


    For all the scientists out there, and for all the students who have a hard time convincing these people regarding the truth of the Bible, here's something that shows God's awesome creation, and that He is still in control.

    Did you know that the space program is busy proving that what has been called "myth" in the Bible is true?

    Mr. Harold Hill, President of the Curtis Engine Company in Baltimore, Maryland, and a consultant in the space program, relates the following development.

    I think one of the most amazing things that God has done for us today happened recently to our astronauts and space scientists at Green Belt, Maryland.

    They were checking out where the positions of the sun, moon, and planets would be 100 years and 1,000 years from now.. We have to know this so we won't send up a satellite and have it bump into something later on in its orbits.

    We have to lay out the orbits in terms of the life of the satellite and where the planets will be so the whole thing will not bog down.

    They ran the computer measurement back and forth over the centuries, and it came t o a halt. The computer stopped and put up a red signal, which meant that there was something wrong with either the information fed into it or with the results as compared to the standards.

    They called in the service department to check it out, and they said, 'What's wrong?' Well, they found there is a day missing in space in elapsed time.

    They scratched their heads and tore their hair out.. There was no answer.

    Finally a Christian man on the team said, 'You know, one time I was in Sunday School, and they talked about the sun standing still.' While they didn't believe him, they didn't have an answer either, so they said,
    'Show us, '

    He got a Bible and went to the book of Joshua where they found a pretty ridiculous statement for any one with 'common sense.'

    There they found the Lord saying to Joshua,

    'Fear them not, I have delivered them into thy hand; there shall not a man of them stand before Thee.'

    Joshua was concerned because he was surrounded by the enemy! And if darkness fell, they would overpower them. So Joshua asked the Lord to make the sun stand still! That's right... 'The sun stood still and the moon stayed and lasted not to go down about a whole day!' (Joshua 10:12-13)

    The astronauts and scientists said, There is the missing day! They checked the computers going back into the time it was written and found it was close but not close enough. The elapsed time that was missing back in Joshua's day was 23 hours and 20 minutes . not a whole day.

    They read the Bible, and there it was about [approximately] a day. These little words in the Bible are important, but they were still in trouble because if you cannot account for 40 minutes, you'll still be in trouble 1000 years from now.

    Forty minutes had to be found because it can be multiplied many times over in orbits. As the Christian employee thought about it, he remembered somewhere in the Bible where it said the sun went BACKWARDS.

    The scientists told him he was out of his mind, but they got out the Book and read these words in 2 Kings that told of the following story:
    Hezekiah, on his death bed, was visited by the prophet Isaiah who told him that he was not going to die. Hezekiah asked for a sign as proof. Isaiah said 'Do you want the sun to go ahead 10 degrees?'

    Hezekiah said, 'It is nothing for the sun to go ahead 10 degrees, but let the shadow return backward 10 degrees.' Isaiah spoke to the Lord, and the Lord brought the shadow ten degrees BACKWARD! Ten degrees is exactly 40 minutes!

    Twenty-three hours and 20 minutes in Joshua, plus 40 minutes in Second Kings make the missing day in the universe! Isn't it amazing?

    References: Joshua 10:8 and 12,13 and 2 Kings 20:9-11."
     
  2. gtbuzzarp

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    The email is a hoax....
    LINK
     
  3. standingfirminChrist

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    This email has been proven to be a 'ho-ax', as Lewis Grizzard used to say. The following link gives information on the truth about this email.
    go to www.snopes.com and do a search for missing day or lost day.
     
  4. Debby in Philly

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    I have heard this one many times. I wonder if it is an "urban legend" or if it is true. It would be neat if it was.
    BTW, the above links don't work.
     
  5. gtbuzzarp

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    1st salesman: Cash for the merchandise, cash for the button hooks
    3rd salesman: Cash for the cotton goods, csh for the hard goods
    1st Salesman: Cash for the fancy goods
    2nd salesman: cash for the noggins and the piggins and the frikins
    3rd Salesman: Cash for the hogdhead, cask and demijohn. Cash for the crackers and the pickels and the flypaper
    4th Salesman: Look whatayatalk. whatayatalk, whatayatalk, whatayataalk, whatayatalk?
    5th Salesman: Weredayagitit?
    4th Salesman: Whatayatalk?
    1st Salesman: Ya can talk, ya can talk, ya can bicker ya can talk, ya can bicker, bicker bicker ya can talk all ya want
    but is different than it was.
    Charlie: No it ain't, no it ain't, but ya gotta know the territory.
    Rail car: Shh shh shh shh shh shh shh
    3rd Salesman: Why it's the Model T Ford made the trouble, made the prople wanna go, wanna get, wanna get up and go
    seven eight , nine, ten, twelve, fourteen, twent-two, twenty-three milew to the county seat
    1st Salesman: Yes sir, yes sir
    3rd Salesman: Who's gonna patronize a little bitty two by four kinda store anymore?
    4th Salesman: Whaddaya talk, whaddaya talk.
    5th Salesman: Where do you get it?
    3rd Salesman: Gone, gone
    Gone with the hogshead cask and demijohn, gone with the sugar barrel, pickel barrel, milk pan, gone with the tub and
    the pail and the fierce
    2nd Salesman: Ever meet a fellow by the name of Hill?
    1st Salesman: Hill?
    Charlie: Hill?
    3rd Salesman: Hill?
    4th Salesman: Hill?
    1st Newspaper Hill?
    2nd Newspaper: Hill?
    5th Salesman: Hill?
    2nd Salesman: Hill?
    All but Charlie and 2nd Salesman: NO!
    4th Salesman: Never heard of any salesman Hill
    2nd Salesman: Now he dosen't know the territory
    1st Salesman: Dosen't know the territory?!?
    3rd Salesman: Whats the fellows line?
    2nd Salesman: Never worries bout his line
    1st Salesman: Never worries bout his line?!?
    2nd Salesman: Or a doggone thing. He's just a bang beat, bell ringing, Big haul, great go, neck or nothin, rip roarin,
    every time a bull's eye salesman. Thats Professor Harold Hill, Harold Hill
    3rd Salesman: What's the fellows line?
    5th Salesman: Whats his line?
    Charlie: He's a fake, and he dosen't know the territory!
    4th Salesman: Look, whaddayatalk, whaddayatalk, whaddayatalk, whaddaystalk?
    2nd Saleman: He's a music man
    1st Salesman: He's a what?
    3rd Salesman: He's a what?
    2nd Salesman: He's a music man and he sells clarinets to the kids in the town with the big trombones and the rat-a-tat
    drums, big barass bass, big brass bass, and the piccolo, the piccolo with uniforms, too with a shiny gold braid
    on the coat and a big red stripe runnin . . .
    1st Salesman: Well, I don't know much about bands but I do know you can't make a living selling big trombones, no sir.
    Mandolin picks, perhaps and here and there a Jew's harp ...
    2nd Salesman: No, the fellow sells bands, Boys bands. I don't know how he does it but he lives like a king and he dallies
    and he gathers and he plucks and shines and when the man dances, certinely boys, what else? The piper pays him! Yes sir ,yes
    sir,yes sir, yes sir, when the man dances, certinely boys, what else?The piper pays him! Yessssir, Yessssir
    Charlie: But he dosen't know the territory!
     
  6. eloidalmanutha

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    it sure does, I use snopes all the time - try it again [​IMG]

    www.snopes.com
     
  7. gtbuzzarp

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    hmmm....I just tested mine and it took me straight there. Try it again. Or goto www.snopes.com and search for "nasa and the bible"
     
  8. Ransom

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    Even if this story weren't a well known hoax, it would still be codswallop.

    Given an accurate mathematical model of the solar system, a computer is capable of extrapolating astronomical data: it could tell you where the sun should have been in the sky at any given time.

    What it can't do, however, is tell you that some major, unanticipated event (like, say, a miracle) caused it not to happen. That is a job for historians, not astronomers and mathematicians.

    Also, NASA doesn't need to know what the other planets are doing to send satellites into orbit. The force of gravity exerted on a satellite by the planet Mars is infinitesimal compared to that exerted by the earth, moon, and sun. And why would NASA need to know what they were doing 3000 years ago? They are trying to launch satellites today, and it's easy to figure out where the sun is today.

    [ March 13, 2006, 06:16 PM: Message edited by: Ransom ]
     
  9. rbell

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    [​IMG]

    Sorry, Ransom, my vocabulary just expanded by one word: "codswallop."

    It's just fun to say...besides, it'll give folks something to wonder about.

    "Honey, did you hear what he called us?! Codswallops!"
     
  10. standingfirminChrist

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    codswallop means Nonsensical talk or writing.

    The origin of the word is questionable. Many believe this is where it came from...

    The story goes that a gentleman by the name of Hiram Codd patented a bottle for fizzy drinks with a marble in the neck, which kept the bottle shut by pressure of the gas until it was pressed inwards. Wallop was a slang term for beer, and Codd's wallop came to be used by beer drinkers as a derogatory term for weak or gassy beer, or for soft drinks.

    This theory has appeared in Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, but there are problems with it. Codswallop is not recorded until the mid-20th century, rather a long time after Codd's invention, and there are no examples of the spelling Codd's wallop, which might be expected as an early form. These are not conclusive disproof of the theory - it is conceivable that the term circulated by word of mouth, like many slang terms, and that the connection with Codd's bottle had been forgotten by the time that the term was written down - but they do shed doubt on the tale.

    Origin found at www.askoxford.com
     
  11. rbell

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    SFIC, whatcha gonna do when you run out of memory space for all those important facts?

    [​IMG]

    (in his best Lou Gehrig) "I stand before you, the most enlightened man on the face of the earth..."
     
  12. standingfirminChrist

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    lol, who said anything about memory? All I have to remember is google.com or dictionary.com. lol
     
  13. Bob Farnaby

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    Just bookmark them, then you don't even have to remember that much!! (or put them on the desktop) Makes this computer stuff so much easier.

    Regards
    Bob
     
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    thanks Bob!

    now I have 31 kbs of my own memory freed up.
     
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    FYI check TRUTH OR FICTION as another reference to this hoax. (BTW - the author of Truth or Fiction is a Chrisitan)
     
  16. Ransom

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    Snopes.com is a lot more comprehensive, but yeah, Truth or Fiction is a worthy site! [​IMG]
     
  17. Ransom

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    ~~ another annoying duplicate post! ~~
     
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    I read the snopes.com account, and I don't see that they prove this isn't true at all. They imply that the Bible can't be relied on, and they say that "Faith is, after all, the firm belief in something for which no proof exists..." I wonder why people are so quick to believe sites like snopes? I could start a website and make all kinds of claims about the validity of certain stories, but that wouldn't make me right. In the end snopes says, "If the sun once really did stand still for a day, the best evidence we'd have for proving it would be the accounts of people who saw it happen. That is what the Bible is said to offer. Some of us accept that, and some of us don't."

    For me, I'll stick with my Bible as truth every time.

    Pastor Mark.
     
  19. Ransom

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    I read the snopes.com account, and I don't see that they prove this isn't true at all. . . . In the end snopes says, "If the sun once really did stand still for a day, the best evidence we'd have for proving it would be the accounts of people who saw it happen. That is what the Bible is said to offer. Some of us accept that, and some of us don't."

    All a computer could tell us is where the sun ought to have been on (say) April 23, 3000 BC, if we assume that the earth's motion around the sun has been perfectly uniform all this time.

    A computer could not anticipate odd events that interfere with the uniform motion of the planets, such as miraculous intervention. That would be a fact of history, not astronomy, and hence they are correct to say that eyewitnesses, not computer programs, are necessary to verify it.

    I happen to believe that the witness of the Bible is true. The Mikkelsons don't, but beside the point.

    I could start a website and make all kinds of claims about the validity of certain stories, but that wouldn't make me right.

    And if you cited your sources, like snopes.com does, then we could evaluate your claims. David and Barbara Mikkelson do their homework on these stories, and it's usually solid.

    Not believing the Bible doesn't automatically make you a bad researcher.
     
  20. MRCoon

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    uh...ditto!! ;)

    Whether the details of the actual story (NASA and their Satellites) is true means nothing because this could be a way for the Devil to slyly sway people to discredit the Bible. If the average man thinks it is a hoax and it can be "discreditted" then why believe the Bible and 'it's made up stories' ???
     

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