MLB Playoffs

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  1. ccrobinson

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    The Rockies and Padres kickoff the playoffs tonight with one game to see who gets to play the Phillies in the NLDS. Let's imagine that you're the manager of the Padres. You know that if you win the game in Milwaukee, you're in the NLDS playoffs and will play at Philadelphia on Wednesday. If you lose and the Rockies win, you're playing 1 game in Colorado just to get into the NLDS. Why would you not send Jake Peavy, the 2007 NL Cy Young Award winner, out against the Brewers? Why would you send out your 2nd best option and leave it up to 1 game just to get into the NLDS? Why save him?

    If Peavy had pitched that game and won, not only do you avoid a 1 game playoff tonight, you still have him available for game 2 in Philly and possibly game 5. By saving him for tonight, you only get 1 game in the NLDS out of him. What am I missing here?

    From Gattaca:

    "You want to know how I did it? This is how I did it, Anton: I never saved anything for the swim back."

    I'm going to call the Padres Anton until proven wrong. They're saving something for the swim back, which doesn't work against Vincent, who's giving everything he has without regard for the swim back. Even if the Pads beat the Rockies, they won't beat the Phillies with that type of play.
     
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    Wouldn't this be a "play-in" game?
     
  3. PastorSBC1303

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    I wondered the exact same thing.

    IMO you always play to win the game in front of you and you worry about the 1 game playoff later.
     
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    Pray for them Rockies!
     
  5. Andy T.

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    Technically, the Rockies/Padres game was a regular season game - all those stats count in the regular season. Holliday's performance should seal him as the NL MVP.

    Here are my predictions:

    AL:

    Red Sox over Angels in 5.
    Yankees over Indians in 4.

    Red Sox over Yankees in 6.

    NL:

    Phillies over Rockies in 5.
    Cubs over D-Backs in 5.

    Phillies over Cubs in 7.

    World Series:

    Red Sox over Phillies in 7.
     
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    I guess the Lord heard your prayer, for the Rookies won 9-8 in the 13th inning.... :thumbs:

    I surmise you are a Red Sox fan.... :laugh:
     
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  7. Andy T.

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    Nope, I am a disappointed Tigers fan. I just think the Red Sox have the most balanced team, and they have played pretty consistent all year. If I had to handicap each team of winning it all, here's how I would do it:

    Red Sox = 25%
    Yankees = 20%
    Angels = 18%
    Indians = 12%
    Phillies = 10%
    Cubs = 5%
    Rockies = 5%
    D-Backs = 5%
     
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    I went out to the San Diego Union Tribune website and found this.

    "Manager Bud Black had said ace Jake Peavy would pitch on short rest today only if the Padres needed to win to reach the playoffs. Because the Padres would survive a defeat, Black instead will start Brett Tomko."

    Jake Peavy was going to go on short rest against the Brewers, but if you have a choice between a Brewers team that's playing out the season, or a Rockies team that would be playing with a sense of desperation, which would you choose? Besides that, the Brewers rested Prince Fielder on Sunday.

    The Pads played to save something for the swim back, but there will be no swim back.

    It's so nice to be right once in a while. :laugh:

    Fearless AL Predictions

    Red Sox vs. Angels
    Starting Pitching - I like Beckett slightly over Lackey; Escobar over Matsuzaka; and even though I'm fond of Weaver (mostly because he won my fantasy baseball season for me this year), Schilling is the ultimate big-game pitcher. Advantage to the Sox.

    Offense - The Angels have Vlad the Impaler and not much else. Figgins has struggled lately and Garret Anderson has cooled off. The Red Sox have Big Papi and ManRam. Mike Lowell has been terrific in September and Youkilis and his beard are back. From top to bottom, I like the Red Sox lineup.

    Bullpen - If they had to rely on Eric Gagne as their main setup guy, the Sox would be in trouble. But, it looks like Okajima's back, tipping the scales back to Boston.

    Too much starting pitching, offense and bullpen for the Angels.

    Red Sox in 3.


    Yankees vs. Indians
    Pitching - The Indians have Sabathia and Carmona. The Yankees have Pettite and Wang. They also have 2 young guys that should be sensational in the playoffs in 2008, 2009 and beyond, but I'm not sold on them being good in the 2007 postseason. They also have 65 year old Roger Clemens and looks-washed-up Mike Mussina, who closed out the season by being terrible, followed by being good, followed by being terrible. Indians have the advantage.

    Offense - Is there ever a season where the Yankees don't have the edge on offense?

    Bullpen - I suspect that most taters will give the edge to the Yankees because of Rivera, but he doesn't look invincible anymore. Of course, Borowski and his bloated ERA shouldn't give much confidence to Cleveland fans. I'm guessing that if I ask webdog what he fears most about the Indians, it's got to be Borowski. So, what about it, webdog? Does Borowski have a great chance to be the death of this team?

    The Yankees' lack of starting pitching is going to bite them yet again.

    Indians in 4.


    Fearless NL Predictions

    Diamondbacks vs. Cubs
    Starting Pitching - Zambrano closed out the season well, but Webb has been hittable since his 42 inning stretch. I'm not terribly excited by Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis, but I'm less excited about Doug Davis and Livan Hernandez. I think Zambrano gives the Cubs the edge.

    Offense - As he usually does, Eric Byrnes fell off in the 2nd half of the season, though not as much as usual. The Snakes have some nice players, but I like the Cubs' offense.

    Bullpen - Valverde gives Arizona a slight advantage, but it's not like Kyle Farnsworth is back there blowing saves for the Cubs anymore.

    Arizona has allowed more runs than they've scored. Somehow, they got away with it in the regular season, but they won't in the postseason.

    Cubs in 3.

    Phillies vs. Rockies
    Starting Pitching - Neither staff is particularly strong, and Hamels gives the Phils the advantage.

    Offense - A wash. Both teams can mash.

    Bullpen - A wash because neither bullpen is great.

    Both teams were fantastic over the last 2 weeks just to get into the playoffs. This series should be a high-scoring slugfest. If this were a football game, you'd probably just call this a pick 'em game. But, since these are fearless predictions, I call a winner.

    Phillies in 5.
     
  9. PastorSBC1303

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    It was quite the performance, and he should get the MVP.

    It is too bad he missed the plate on that last play though.
     
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    Would the new gray hairs I've gotten since April tell you? I think of his 44 saves, 35 were nail biters. Sad thing is, if he doesn't blow those two saves last week, he would have surpassed Jose Mesa as the Indians' all time saves leader.

    I think the death of the team will be an untested Carmona, and the O. Just about all of the every day players had horendous years (Hafner .266, 24 home runs as an example), and if this carries into the playoffs, we are in trouble. Even with the team-wide off year, we still finished tied for best record in baseball, so that tells you pitching wins games. If the pitching remains solid, they can play with anyone, and can advance...and win the World Series.
     
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    I want to take this statement back. I forgot about Jimmy Rollins. He is probably the MVP. He plays a more important defensive position, and he plays it well. Holliday's numbers are bloated some due to Coors Field. Some talk about Fielder, but I think he should finish behind these two guys. And Ryan Howard after him.
     
  12. pocadots1990

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    Don't forget, he did hit a HR but it was ruled a double.
     
  13. ccrobinson

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    Garrett Atkins hit the HR that wasn't.
     
  14. Debby in Philly

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    Thank you.
    I agree.
    But I guess I'm biased.:D
     
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    I will take Holliday over Rollins.

    Rollins is a great player no doubt. But IMO, Holliday practically single handedly put the Rockies on his back and took them to the wild card.

    The Phils still got a pretty good lineup even without Rollins.
     
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    Yep, good game. I hope they make it somewhere in the playoff's now.
     
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    slight detour, but still in the baseball realm:

    One of my all time faves played his final game. It was really something to watch Craig Biggio get after it. Class exemplified. Not many like him, and I'm sorry to see him go.

    Anyway, back to playoff talk...
     
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    I hate Yankees! I hope Indians beat Yankees in 5. I don't care who will win World Series. But, I would like to see Rockies win World Series first time in their history.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
     
  19. ccrobinson

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    Why would you want it stretched out to 5 games? Why not root for the sweep? I just don't think much of this Yankees team and I think they're getting too much credit just because they're wearing the pinstripes.
     
  20. Bible Believing Bill

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    I have one thing to say.

    GO D-BACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bill
     

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