Modern Version Only sect

Not only that, but even if there were to be a single English version of the Word, it would not be the KJV. It's clearly eliminated from being the one true English Bible. The Geneva Bible would have a much better shot at that title.

 

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Anyone who attacks the Word of God will have posts snipped and lose posting privileges. I am truly tired of this nonsense.
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Nowhere in this statement of mine below, did I attack God's word. But you all do it continually. How? By condoning those things that have. Not only that, but you have done this by snipping the scripture examples that I have provided.


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I choose and recommend the reliable sword, that has been provided By God Almighty, and reject and warn of that unfamiliar sword provided by men and their methods and corrupt texts.
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Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

The reliable sword being the Bible (in any sound translation) and the unreliable sword being books written by men, I am certain.

 

I try not to feed the trolls...

Yours in Christ

Matt

 

C4K said:

The reliable sword being the Bible (in any sound translation) and the unreliable sword being books written by men, I am certain.

I'll pit my 155mm howitzer, the NASB, against some old sword any day.

 

Michelle:Nowhere in this statement of mine below, did I attack God's word. But you all do it continually. How? By condoning those things that have.

Newp! There are very few of us who condone the KJVO myth. KJVOism is the attack on God's word because it tells Him He can present His word only as THEY say He can.


Not only that, but you have done this by snipping the scripture examples that I have provided.

Every one here has at least one Bible, so there's no need to repeat Scriptures we all have. However, YOUR words are unique to us as there's only one YOU. Therefore, when disagreeing with you, we repeat your words so all will know what specific points of yours we're disagreeing with. No need to repeat Scriptures available to all.

 

The English Bible for the nuclear age:
HCSB = Holman Christian Standard Bible.

 

You have an excellent point. Certainly the majority of people could not read. But even that aside if you were to throw away most of the pages of the Bible you could still live the Christian life. People were living the Christian life long before the NT was even started.

A tremendous book on the subject is Memory and Manuscript: Oral Tradition and Written Transmission in Rabbinic Judaism and Early Christianity : With Tradition and Transmission in Early Christianity (Biblical Resource Series)
by Birger Gerhardsson, et al (Paperback )

The book is not easy reading but has a wealth of information.

A good example of that might be found today among those who do not have a Bible in countries where it is illegal to have a Bible or any part of one. They might have one among many people and memorize it.

What I have found interesting for a long time is that there is not nearly as much disagreement among the scholars who work with these things as there is at what I call the ignorance level.

The standard must be set at getting the best text possible. But I believe that it is not so much of an issue with God as it is with so many people.

Often we see in the Bible quotes being taken from different sources.

I don't always agree with the TR nor do I always agree with the UBS and NA texts. But if I completely threw out the differences it would make no difference in my living the Christian life and making disciples. If it did then it would be impossible for a new believer and for that matter all of us to live the Christian life because we did not know all the Bible gives us. I am still having trouble understanding some passages and probably will until I see Jesus. Even some of the scholars I have met who are majoring on some of these things say, "I don't know." So if they are majoring on it and don't know where does that leave me?

 

Can someone give me an example of any version that is stronger than another in Romans 10:9? I have trouble missing the point. It seems to me that I would have to not be living to miss the point of that verse in any version.

 

gb: "Can someone give me an example of any version that is stronger than another in Romans 10:9? I have trouble missing the point."

Perhaps there is no problem because the TR, majority, and NA27/UBS4 all agree precisely in the underlying wording? ("That if you should confess with your mouth (the) Lord Jesus....")

Of course, the Westcott-Hort text (which the Nestle/UBS editors have rejected so to read with the majority text) has it a little differently, and doctrinally perhaps even stronger: "That if you should confess the word, by your mouth, that Jesus is Lord..."

Amazing how that "corrupt" W-H text sometimes makes an orthodox statement even stronger, isn't it?

Of course, it doesn't make that reading correct, either....

 

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When you say one translation = God's Word and the others are NOT God's Word, that is blasphemy and attack on the Bible that will not be tolerated.
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Well, if you hadn't snipped the references, you and others would clearly be able to see [more attacks on the Word of God snipped]. I did not say KJB, nor did I mention any specific MV. I used a generalatity to show the point that many are looking at this issue in a very dangerous way with LABELS, rather than the actual words of God and this should be what is not tolerated. I did not attack the word. It was shown those that HAVE ATTACKED THE WORD OF GOD, and YOU SNIPPED it.


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

[ November 12, 2004, 10:46 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob ]

 

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The reliable sword being the Bible (in any sound translation) and the unreliable sword being books written by men, I am certain.
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And as I have asked, many times, and still yet to be answered with scripture, How is it one determines what makes a translation sound? What are the determining factors from scripture that one uses to make the proper judgement?


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

Bluefalcon's technique has gotten very old. He takes a truth about the KJVO and says it applies to the non-KJVO. Yet it's manifestly false. There are no MV Only's.

 

Does it contain the gospel message? Does it hold true to the literal truth of the truth of God? Does it convict? Does it teach the whole of the counsel of God?

It does not have to echo the KJV. It does not have to tip its hat to the transalters of the KJV. It does not have to be translated by anyone special.

What would be your criteria, Michelle?

In Christ,
Trotter

 

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What would be your criteria, Michelle?
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No, as I asked for the following:


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And as I have asked, many times, and still yet to be answered with scripture, How is it one determines what makes a translation sound? What are the determining factors from scripture that one uses to make the proper judgement?
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Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

God gave you a brain to think with. Sometimes He expects you to use it. Scripture doesn't talk about everything. It doesn't talk about how to drive a car or build an air conditioner. My point is that a verse is not always necessary. Sometimes God uses others to teach us other things just like you might teach your children manners. If oyu are always looking for a verse for everythiung you may be looking a long time. When I learned to operate a power saw I never looked at scripture but I did listen to the man who was teaching me.

I don't anybody who reads the Bible to know how much air to put in the tires of their car. I read the owners manual for that.

 

Oh, you wanted something from the word of God in regards to translations of His word? They ain't none.

If there were, you would have cut-and-pasted it by now...

In Christ,
Trotter

 

Proverbs 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.


HankD