More research needed on fear Obama quotes?

Um, that was my quote, not Senator Obamas. OKay, Just to satisfy you I will clarify my own point of view.

I will, even with your ellipsis, stand shoulder to shoulder with Senator Obama and Arab or Pakistani Americans, should anyone try to deprive them of their constitutional rights simply because of their national, ethnic, racial, or religious background. If not, we might as well throw our beloved constitution in the rubbish heap.


Anything can be taken out of context.

Perhaps I should a thread called "Bible supports party lifestyle!"

"Eat, drink, and be merry...!"

 

I will credit you for changing it, but it was my research that opened this thread. You challenged my research so it became your responsibility to prove that my research was flawed. Instead your research supported ny original contention that you were using a misquote. To be fair the quote in your signature should give the whole statement so everyone can make their own decision. It should not be slanted to your view of what he said. The whole quote, in context, is something all American citizens should be able to say.

Mea culpa - I should have said American citizens. I did not think I needed to since Sen Obama uses the word "citizenship" in the full quote. I apologise for the oversight.

 

So we just dismiss honesty because no one does it?

 

Partly because this in the only place a man is attacked because of his middle name and where his mommy sent him to school when he was five, or because his first name sounds like Osama, or undocumented quotes are posted with checking them out first.

I am amazed that no one posting on these sensationalists threads supports me when I attack Obama on substance threads.

Its much easier to deflect with out of context misquotes than to deal with real issues.

 

The key is to not attack another poster - that will get you (or me) suspended.

 

Let the readers and viewers decide for themselves.

To me, the quality of the video [on another thread], combined with a known internet track record (not referring to the Baptist Board here) of ripping his comments out of context as as scare tactic, convince me that this video is more of the same. I am not going to take the hours required to read his books and find the comments. The track record of this kind of tactic is all I need.

 

Expecting accuracy is not defence. Read my comments on any issue of substance and you will find my views on Sen Obama.

 

I don't know how this thread got on the topic of the video of another thread, maybe it is my fault.

Anyway, it is obvious just by looking at it and its "stop/start" nature.

This is my last post on the video. You know my view on it. Let each viewer decide.

This does not change the issue of this thread. At least one false quote has been made and later corrected. The "fear Obama" quotes need researched before they can be accepted.

 

I think it is interesting that none of these "Fear Obama" internet sources give the page numbers where they get the quotes. Proper, ethical sourcing requires more than just a vague reference to a boo.

I was in a bookstore today and picked up "Audacity of Hope." I only knew page 261 so I turned there. The quote in question about standing with Arab and Pakistani Americans should things get ugly was much longer than even the corrected quote. It was worth spending 12.50 euro (20 dollars) to prove a point, but I will put my paraphrase here open to anyone's scrutiny.

Obama was saying that after 9/11 he saw Arab and Pakistani Americans in fear of their constitutional rights being taken away just because of their national origin. He said that they needed to know that they as citizens could take their citizenship seriously. He recalled that the US immigration record had its dark side pointing out the Japanese internments. After all that he made the comment about standing with these citizens should their rights be threatened.

It was actually a very inspiring paragraph. I agree with Sen Obama 100%, I will stand with any fellow American citizens whose lives or liberties were in danger because of their nationality, ethnicity, or religion.

In context, this is a powerful statement on the importance of constitutional.
liberties.

This is an example I why I think the pat internet quotes need more research.