In a thread that was suddenly closed, JamesL wrote this; I am almost in complete agreement with James here. Our "flesh" simply lusts to gratify itself. For every person this might be different, one person may lust after porn, another person homosexuality, another drinking, gambling, or any combination of these sinful desires. At the same time man is spirit. Our spirits are made and given to us by God and are not sinful, at least not at first. However, as we indulge and please our flesh, our spirit or "nature" can become sinful. But even in this corrupted and sinful state, our spirit can will to obey God. This is shown when the disciples fell asleep in the garden. Mat 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. This verse was spoken before the Holy Spirit was given to believers, and so speaks of man's "natural" spirit he was born with. Were the disciples sinners at this point? YES. But were they able to will to be obedient to Jesus? YES. It is folks not understanding the difference between our flesh and spirit that leads to the false doctrine of Total Inability. Even unregenerate man has the ability to will the will of God if he so chooses. Jhn 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. Our spirits do become corrupted and become "sinful" when we willingly and knowingly sin against God. But when we trust Jesus our spirit is washed clean and regenerated as James said, and joined to the Holy Spirit. This is why a saved person cannot fall away and lose their salvation. (1 Jhn 3:9) 1 Cor 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. That a Christian can still obey the lusts of the flesh and sin is shown in the very next verse; 1 Cor 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. People need to understand man is both a body (flesh) and spirit. This would clear up much false doctrine as James wrote.