Most churches KJVO or no?

KJVOs are NOT fundamentalists. They never have been, and they never will be. I realize that is difficult for people to accept, but it is nonetheless truth.

The fundamentalists use the American Standard Version, NOT the KJV, in defending truth against apostacy. I wonder why. Actually, I don't.

I use the NASB since I am a fundamentalists.

KJVO are a perversion of truth and revise history. Some people just NEED to believe in some things I guess.

 

KJVO's grew out of the Fundamentalists. Personally, I consider the KJVO's an off-shoot or sect of Fundamentalism. True Fundamentalists use various versions, whether they are the KJV, NKJV, NASB,etc

 

What does that mean?

KJVOs are divided into two groups:
1. consider the KJV1611 edition to be evil
and the KJV1769 edition the only true Bible
2. do not distinguish between the KJV1611
edition and the KJV1769 edition.

So which of the two is your IFB church like?
Thank you.

 

Watchmen: "This is no big deal, but I doubt it is the 1611. You better look at the front of these Bibles; it allmost certainly is the 1769, the one most widely in circulation today."

Actually, it is worse than that.
Most KJV1769 editions do NOT denote that
they are the 1769 edition.
Evidently some KJV Bible makers do NOT
want their users to know that there
is even different editions of the KJV.

 

Exactly!

Now that's one I gotta remember!
Right now there are there are four IFB churches in my town. Of that four, three of them definatly use only the KJB and are firm in that. The reason I know this is because I attend one, and know the pastors and some members of the other two. As for the forth I'm not sure. They just dropped out of the SBC and joined the IFB's but that's about all I know of them.
But hey, if you aren't going to stand up for it, do you really believe it?
~Miss Abby
Proverbs 31:30 KJB

 

Prouerbes XXXI:29 (KJV1611):
Many daughters ||haue done
vertuously, but thou excellest them all.

Sidenote: ||Or, have gotten riches.

Prouerbes XXXI:29 (KJV1611, second best translation):
Many daughters have gotten
riches, but thou excellest them all.

Ain't sidenotes won'erful

 

Oh no, my statements are accurate. They embraced the inspiration of the originals, ONLY. KJVO by nature believes that the KJV is the ONLY inspired version.

To attribute the same kind of inspiration of the originals to the KJV is a perversion of truth and moves one beyond the realm of fundamentalism, as the nature of inspiration is a fundamental of the faith.

I realize KJVOs call themselves KJVO, but like so many involved in cults, they are themselves deceived. The Lord does not deceive, EVER.

 

Which of the 7 fundamentals do you believe KJVOs deny?

 

I think he just said which one in the post right before yours. KJVO denies the inspiration of scripture in the originals only.

 

Unfortunately that is not one of the 7 fundamentals. In fact, that statement is heterodox according to the historical confessions and creeds. The historic creeds indicate the bibles available to them at the time were considered inspired and infallible. According to textual historian Theodore Letis the "only in the originals" position is of late origin beginning with BB Warfield of Princeton around 1900.

 

I'm still waiting for Ephesus23 to answer my question as to what his church does when someone shows up with a Bible that is not the KJV

Kenneth

 

HankD:
What would happen in a KJVO Church if the Pastor preached from a real 1611 Bible and then exposited from the Apocrypha from an apocryphal text referenced by the KJV translators in the margin?

What would happen in a MV church if the Pastor preached from the real Codex Sinaiticus, including the Shepherd of Hermas and the Epistle of Barnabas?

 

My Fundamental #1 says:
"The inspiration and infallibility of Scripture."

Doesn't mention KJV, original autographs, etc.

 

God bless you!

Second post.

 

Sorry but those books are not in any MV that I know of.

But in fact one can buy a Bible publicly which includes the Apocrypha: the Nelson 1611 Edition of the King James Bible or the Confraternity Douay-Rheims Bible in a Catholic book store.

In addition you have deflected my question with another question.

Why can't we all honestly admit the short comings and human failings of the past instead of living in a fantasy world?

Pride (I'm not immune, but you already know that from previous evidence ).

Another issue.
Someone implied that the English KJB words were/are inspired.

How about the words "God forbid" and "would to God"? Are these words inspired?
These are words definitely added to the KJB English text without ANY original language support(but then again if the English corrects the Greek and Hebrew it doesn't matter).

HankD

 

Sorry but those books are not in any MV that I know of.

But in fact one can buy a Bible publicly which includes the Apocrypha: the Nelson 1611 Edition of the King James Bible or the Confraternity Douay-Rheims Bible in a Catholic book store.

In addition you have deflected my question with another question.

Why can't we all honestly admit the short comings and human failings of the past instead of living in a fantasy world?

Pride (I'm not immune, but you already know that from previous evidence ).

</font>[/QUOTE]HankD, is everything OK? This is not the way you usually debate.

 

My church is Historic IFB,

Not KJVO in any way, very friendly to other versions, mainly NASB and NIV for teaching and preaching.

As a matter of fact, in our church the preaching against onlyism is almost as strong as some KJVO preaching I have heard.

In our area, the group of churches that our church would be most similar to are not KJVO for the most part due to the influence of Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary, but there are many many smaller independant and denominational Baptist churches in our area that are KJVO. a large group of General Baptist churches that are.

It has been a strange experience to be in some of these churches and have something taught so strongly without any Biblical foundation. I am much more accustomed to churches that base their doctrine and philosophy on the Bible, so extra-Biblical teaching makes me squirm a little.

 

Funny you should ask...

Today we are having a rare snow storm in western Washington and I can't get to work.

Although I'm grateful for the time off, I do contract work and don't get vacation time benefits.

Anyway, I was trying to show the duplicity of KJVOers (like the rest of us but have a problem admitting it).

HankD

 

"What would happen in a MV church if the Pastor preached from the real Codex Sinaiticus, including the Shepherd of Hermas and the Epistle of Barnabas? "
He would get arrested for stealing such a valuable old book.


What?