My Principal Problem With MVs...

Feel Free to define "Justification, Propitiation, Redemption"
from the Geneva Bibles or King James Bibles.

 

Are you suggesting that all modern versions seem to undermine or do not use the theological terms such as Justification, Propitiation, Redemption?

Do not at least some modern versions such as the NKJV, the Modern KJV, the KJ2000, the KJ21, and perhaps others keep such terms?

 

The NKJV keeps these Biblical terms; I cannot speak as to any other.

Ed

 

TCG ,some OV's ( older versions ) did not use the word 'propitiation' . I looked up Romans 3:25 ; Hebrews 2:17 ; 1 John 2:2 ; 1 John 4:10 and that word was not found in Wycliffe ( 1395 ) , Tyndale ( 1526 ) , and Coverdale . In the Bishop's Bible it was only used in Romans 3:25 . So the "link to the past' may not be so strong .

I did not look up the words 'justification' and 'redemption' yet .

The wording "atoning sacrific' may not be as exacting as you wish , but in the more functionally-equivalent versions footnotes are provided which flesh-out the meaning . The NET Bible elaborates on this very well .

The 1996 New Living Bible has the following wording for the pertinent element of Romans 3:25 : For God sent Jesus to take the punishment for our sins and to satisfy God's wrath against us .

 

Redemption is in the NLTse and NET

Justification is in the NET

What aspect of the word "propitiation" does the word "atonement" not cover?

 

Probably the averting of God's rightful wrath which is due to us -- but the act of Christ taking the full bore of it upon Himself . Also the sense of the apeasement , not just the expiation ( as the RSV has it ) of our sins .

 

1873 Cambridge KJV

UPS delivered my 1873 Cambridge Edition KJV today and I love it.

Anyone else own this particular edition? and how often do you read from it?

 

262 years.

From what I understand, just minor changes in spelling for the period.

Just got it around 4 yesterday evening and had things to do around house so was not able to read alot, but it does look good

 

There are some other changes too...

My KJV in my parallel bible is an 1873, and I ran some checks, and there are some differences besides spelling..

For instance...If my memory serves me correct, on Heb 10:23, the 1873 replaces the word faith with joy..

SFIC, check your 1873, and see if this is the case with yours..

I used to have a list of changes on another computer, If I can find it, I will post a new thread so this one will not be hijacked....

Another thing with the 1873 is the footnotes... they reflect the original sidenotes of the 1611. Anyway, mine does...
plus mine is in paragraph form..
And I think Ed Edwards uses one too...