So I ask, and this has nothing to do with fabrications in other threads. I am certain that will come up again all on its own. Naming names and calling out apostasy and apostate leaders: Jesus called out religious leaders in His day. He used descriptive language of them as well; note Matthew 23 and also Luke 11:37ff. He didn't 'avoid direct attacks of religious leaders' or 'sects', something we may call 'denominations' today. Paul did the same, and used names; 1 Timothy 1:20; 2 Timothy 2:17; 2 Timothy 3:8; 2 Timothy 4:14. He called out those who left him. By name. 2 Timothy 4. We are called to mark those who cause division and offenses contrary to sound doctrine; Romans 16:17ff. If we are to avoid them, then they are named and known. We are not called to pander to them, leave them alone, but are called to mark them, or literally to take aim. Jude alluded to them not in a kind manner. Note Jude 1:3 as the exhortation to contend for the faith, and the balance of this short epistle. Peter described false apostates vividly as well, note 2 Peter. The cry today is do it in Christian love, and that doing this (naming names) is not expressing Christian love. That 'attacks' (naming them for their false beliefs, practices, teachings) are maligned is unfortunate. That is a wrong and incomplete view of 'Christian love'. It is not Biblically accurate to renounce this practice. It is a compromise and a cop out. The above are examples of this love and exemplify it as it is for the sheep and their protection. Note Paul's warning in Acts 20:18 ff. I love the stand those men of God took, and love the same yet today. It is a biblical practice. Recently a thread was locked because religious leaders were called out. Seems this biblical practice is frowned upon here. Now, are we allowed to call out Joel Osteen? Benny Hinn? Zane Hodges? Charles Finney? Rob Bell? Brian McClaren? Herbert Armstrong? Kenneth Copeland? Lewis Sperry Chafer? Joseph Prince? Other false teachers and direct our aim at them? Yes? No? Name who is excluded and why. Who is not to be called out? What false religious leader gets a free ride? Which denomination? Do we label an apostate Church a denomination because it may have someone saved within her, when she is apostate and not true? Got Scripture that states these are not to be called out, nor her leaders due to this, and that it is not nice or Christian? Let's apply this unbiblical standard to the Mormon's, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDA, Restored Church of God, New Apostolic Reformation churches, PCUSA churches et al. What sets the precedent? Scripture? Our own polity? Our wallet?