NARCISSIST IN CHIEF-Experts explain what makes Barack Obama tick

==Actually, if you look at the top left corner of the birth certificate it says the place of birth was Honolulu. That is in Hawaii.

 

==That is not true. According to the State of Hawaii the copy is valid even in a court of law. The copy is proof.

==Here, you are only half right. The State of Hawaii does allow people born in other nations (etc) to get birth certificates in Hawaii. That is why the birth certificate has a place on it that reads "city, town, or location of birth". That must be filled in with the location of the birth. Obama's location of birth is clearly stated as being Honolulu. Seems very clear to me.

==Politics.

 

==Considering all the evidence, that comment is a sad sign of digging deep. A sure sign of desperation when all the facts are against your position.

I'm sorry to see that you are so unwilling to even acknowledge what is clearly before you.

==He has provided a certified copy.

The hard evidence is clear. If you wish to continue down this road go right ahead. Sadly you, and others, seem unwilling to acknowledge the facts in this case. I don't know what else I can say or show.

 

==Let's see. A statement from the Department of Health in Hawaii, a certified copy of his birth certificate, and a newspaper announcement of his birth in two Honolulu newspapers. All the recorded evidence goes against your position. Sorry, but those are the facts.

As for "elevated emotion". There is no "elevated emotion" on my part. I am sipping on sweet tea, working on lectures, and checking this thread every few minutes. The only "emotion" I have about this discussion is sheer amazement. But it does prove something about the effects of politics on people. Politics is a bad game.

==Again, there is a statement from the Department of Health in Hawaii, a certified copy of his birth certificate, and a newspaper announcement of his birth in two Honolulu newspapers from 1961. Though he should have released his original early on, and it would not hurt for him to release it now, I don't see a actual need for him to release his original at this point. After all, it is certainly not going to convince many of the folks in your camp. There will still be conspiercy theories about this.

 

Martin

You still seem confused about what I posted about obama. I did not say he was a dictator. I simply asked if dictators were Narcissistic. You apparently felt it necessary to defend obama. I cannot understand why a conservative would find it necessary to do so. Therefore, my remarks about leftists.

If you are going to worry about people being denied due process then worry about 50,000,000 who have been denied due process, not the Patriot act.

As far as the constitution the Federal government has violated the 10th amendment at least since the days of FDR.

 

==You and I will never see a physical birth certificate for any American President. We can only trust the people who have. The officials in the State of Hawaii say they have the birth certificate on file and the Obama campaign released a certified copy of his certificate. If you can't trust that, then the release of the actual birth certificate will probably not satisfy all of your questions since you will still wonder "is it real". I thought I was cynical when it came to politics and government officials but you passed me on the road a mile back. Maybe your more skeptical attitude is better than my acceptance of the records? Either way, I have go with the written record at this point. So until I see solid evidence otherwise, I have to say that Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii in 1961. I can't go with doubts based on a loophole.

Btw, the birth certificate in the photo is the certified copy (by the state of Hawaii).

 

==I defended the historical facts, not Obama. I don't care about Obama. I am a conservative but I refuse to tow the line for any political party or group. So you may see me defend the facts in regards to Bush, Clinton, Reagan, or Obama. You may also see me attack the policies of those same men.

==I am concerned about all American citizens who have been denied due process whether by abortion, the Patriot Act, or corrupt government officials. Our Constitutional rights should never be denied or compromised by the government. After all, those rights are there to defend us against the federal government getting too powerful.

==Yes it has and now, thanks to Bush, Obama, Republicans, and Democrats, it is also violating the 6th amendment.

 

Perhaps it is the miracle of Photoshop?

 

How refreshing to find one so dedicated!

The only way I have been denied "due process" is the government takes my money without my consent. I believe they call that stealing.

 

==They not only steal our money they take it and use it to support immoral causes (abortion, homosexuality, etc).

 

I have to agree with you there!

 

Now that he has had an Honorary Law Doctorate Degree bestowed on him by Notre Dame, perhaps the narcissist in chief will appoint himself to the Supreme Court. Nothing would surprise me at this juncture.

 

==Obama already holds an earned Juris Doctorate from Harvard School of Law. An honorary degree is just something to hang on the wall and look pretty. Personally I don't agree with the practice of granting honorary doctorates. Many universities simply give them to large donors or graduation speakers. Often students who have worked hard to earn their graduate or post-graduate degrees resent the granting of an honorary degree at a graduation ceremony.

 

I like Arizona States approach. They said he had done nothing deserving of an ornery degree.

 

I had the privilege of being at one of his town hall meetings in February when someone "challenged" him. As many people booed Obama said, "No it's a fair question" and proceeded to answer the question.

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