News: Am I Really supporting the terrorists?

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  1. Justified

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    There was a commercial on today that people were saying that they were sorry for supporting terrorist by driving large vehicles and SUV's, because of their bad fuel mileage. [​IMG]

    I have always enjoyed driving my big gas GUZZLING cars and trucks, and didn't bother me to pay for the gas. It is a decission Olive and I made years ago. [​IMG]

    We like our Crown Vics and my F450 duelly, in the future an E350, 15 passenger van. :D

    What about you! [​IMG]

    [ February 26, 2003, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: The Squire ]
     
  2. TheOliveBranch

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    Maybe we should look at the service stations where we buy the gas instead of which vehicle we drive.

    A person could own an SUV and fill the tank once a month, because they go to the store twice a week and maybe to church. Compared that to the small car owner, that travels for his job over 2000 miles a week and has to fill up four or five times a week. Who's supporting terrorism now?

    If that SUV owner considered which gas station sells middle eastern oil, they wouldn't be supporting terrorism. And there are gas stations that don't sell middle eastern products.
     
  3. Acts 1:8

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    Which ones?
     
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    It doesn't matter which ones. Oil is completely indistinguishable; if you buy from a station supplied by Venezuelean oil (quite unllikely now) then other people in the U.S. and across the world are supplied by Arab oil made available by your purchasing from a non-Arab nation.

    I am not bashing anyone who has a big cars, and "supporting the terrorists" is over the top. But as a nation facing immense problems because of imported oil it seems silly to me that we should keep running big cars -- when they're not necessary to the purpose -- and feed our dependence on foreign oil.

    If you have a need for a big car, that's fine. But when the local community runs low on water, I can't imagine that someone can oppose rationing just because "I want a greener lawn than anyone else."

    [ January 08, 2003, 12:04 AM: Message edited by: rsr ]
     
  5. TheOliveBranch

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    It is not impossible to buy from gas stations that avoid selling mid-east products. Here is some help in making this decision:

    Gas Sold in the US
     
  6. pdp27

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    Drill in ANWAR
     
  7. Walls

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    My husband said that my post was mean. I apologize if I offended anyone. I was shocked, because we don't watch tv and the media will do anything to sway you from things of real importance. It is just a way to promote something they want the people to buy into. There are forms of terrorism in each nation. That was my only point.

    [ January 09, 2003, 10:14 AM: Message edited by: Walls ]
     
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    Arianna Huffington who is behind this campaign lives in a 9000 Square foot house in Los Angeles. Wonder how much gas she uses to heat that thing on a cool day or how much electricity she burns to cool it on a hot day?

    I tire so easily of do gooders who are hypocrites! :eek:
     
  9. Baptist Believer

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    Just because it is on a web site doesn't mean the material is accurate...

    Here an appropriate Snopes reference for more information:

    http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/nogas.htm
     
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    This just in: Do Not Eat Chicken, Beef, Carrots,
    Corn, Wheat Products, or Rice! These products
    are brought to you by gas-guzzling trucks, some
    even imported by gas-guzzling, water-polluting
    ships.

    Well . . . same thing! This is a truly ridiculous
    campaign. Somebody has too much time and too
    little to do.
     
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    I'm sure we could debate the amount of oil we get from whatever source.

    But, while the ad makes a connection between oil and terrorists, the thing we nee do look at is who's behind the ad.

    The purpose of the ad is not to discourage the use of mideastern oil, it's to discourage the use of SUV's. The originators of the ad could care less about where the oil comes from. They just want to rid the world of SUV's on the road.
     
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    Well, so do I. They're nothing more than trussed up trucks that have grown far out of proportion. But I wouldn't necessarily call the driver of one a terrorist supporter.
     
  14. Baptist Believer

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    In areas without any real public transportation alternatives and very long distances to travel, an SUV is a comfortable way to get from one place to another. They are not designed for urban commuting in congested cities, but for wide-open spaces and sub-standard roads. In the western and midwestern United States, these vehicles are the ultimate go-anywhere vehicle that can take you around town but also brave the rigors of the rural environment. They have the rugged suspension of a truck, but they can carry more people than a typical pick-up.

    While it is true that many people use SUVs as a status symbol, there are very legitimate uses for the vehicles. To outlaw them would be very foolish

    Try taking a Honda Civic down a washed over road on a typical Texas ranch and see how far you get and how long it lasts… :D

    [ January 09, 2003, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: Baptist Believer ]
     
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    Oh, I know. [​IMG] I wouldn't outlaw them either, not even here in the city where a nice compact car or sedan would do just about everyone fine (don't see too many people with more than a couple kids around here).

    I just don't find them attractive, and for most people, it's more vehicle than they need. But that's no reason to make owning or operating them illegal.

    I do have to suppress a laugh, though, when I see SUVs on the side of the road when it snows. The same people who, before, with their normal car, would have been crawling around in 1" of snow at 15 miles an hour, like the rest of us, suddenly think driving an SUV makes them invincible in snow and ice.

    Then I whip out my cell phone and call motorist assistance as I cruise on by.
     
  16. Baptist Believer

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    Yes. My love has a Honda Civic she loves dearly (I like it too) and I drive a pickup even though I live in the city. Sometimes I have to go out into the boonies. [​IMG]

    I’d love to get one of those new Honda Civic hybrids to save on gas, but the old Honda just won’t wear out and we can’t afford three cars.

    Yeah… SUVs are handy for polygamists, their wives and children. :D
     
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    Speaking of ugly, do you remember what SUVs have replaced? Big ugly gas-guzzling station wagons – many of them with that nasty fake wood trim.

    (Yes I know that minivans also replaced station wagons, but they’re not very attractive either.)

    At least SUVs have the benefit of looking sporty. :cool:
     
  18. Johnv

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    BTW - here's another problem. What constitutes and SUV? I recently test drove the Saturn VUE, which gets mileage similar to a car. Yet, SUV naysayers put in the same class as the Ford Excursion.
     
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    This thread is funny [​IMG] I drive a 1988 Chevy 350 v8 4x4, and I have never seen an suv dare go the places I take my truck. I dont know what type of subterrain rough roads they are talking about. But most of the suv owners would not go where I take my truck, they might scratch the paint. I believe most, if the truth be known,is nothing more than a status symbol. Real nice grocery getters, or look at me I have good credit,soocer moms.

    [ January 09, 2003, 07:31 PM: Message edited by: trumpet ]
     
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    Olive Branch, thanks for the link. Someone questioned its accuracy. I'm not an expert but it did check out correctly with the little bit that I do know.

    Here in the east we have Sunoco. Sunoco uses ZERO middle-eastern oil,Their refineries aren't set up to process it (oil is different depending on where it comes from).

    So, I use only Sunoco.

    I think they should advertize it...lots of people would pay a little extra for gas that doesn't come from countries that fund terrorism. I would.
     

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