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Newt's Scary Idea

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bro. Curtis, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    Again Newt is playing to his "red meat" followers. This idea has absolutely no chance. Even if it did become law can you see any judge upholding it constitutionally?

    This is an idea that was dead before he thought it up.
     
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    I wouldn't vote for Bachman. Even though I agree with her on the D.O.E..
     
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    Read all that was said not just the little bit that was reported so as to misrepresent what was ment.
     
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    AMEN! This is AMERICA!

    Mainstream Republicans have gotten to be hardly distinguishable from the dems. I really fail to see where all the controversy between the two comes from anymore. They're both all about big government.
     
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    I honestly don't know right now, Brother. What I do know is that Newt is one I wouldn't for Orkin, if my house were falling apart from termites.
     
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    You should be saying the same about Obama. The fact that you don't is revealing.
     
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    Well, Obama has tried, and the Reps are fighting him tooth and nail. They are trying to get him ousted, and put someone in who shares their ideas, BIG BUSINESS!!
     
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    As I said...revealing.

    The fact that you won't vote for a Gingrich means nothing from a Christian standpoint. You're a liberal.

    Spiritual condition of a candidate means nothing to you. You're just trying to hide your political views behind your Christianity.
     
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    Look Brother, I have been raised to work for a living. I have been raised to stand for what is right. The Reps have always been against unions, and the Dems have went way to the left. I can not support anyone who doesn't have the working man's interest at heart. I really can't vote the other way, either. Both all flawed, so I may just be non-commital, and pray for God to help us.
     
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    And for you to know, I am NOT a liberal. I am pro-life, anti-gay marriage/gays adopting. But to vote for someone who is more concerned with the 1% than those who work to make their 1% ain't smart, either.
     
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    The only thing Obama has tried to do is make America dependent on the government instead of self sufficient. What Obama wants cannot be done. There isn't enough money in all the country no matter how many rich people they steal from.
     
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    And the Reps want us to be dependent upon the 1% for our money making.


    I will use my job for an explanation. Where I work, we get annual raises each April. The last couple of years, it has went from 3%, to 2.5%, and this last april, it was 2%. The pat response of "we didn't make as much this year as we did last year" was given.

    The last job before this one was union. We negogiated(sp?) for a raise of 3% for each year. This way we knew what our raises would be. If one is looking to "corporate america" for a raise, they're in trouble. They want to get the majority of the $$$ and give the "working class stiff", a puny amount.
     
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    Can you give a clear explanation proving this? How are they accomplishing this? What drives this mindset? Are they all part of the 1%? How does doing this benefit them?


    Why is this?

    Why is that no a reasonable response?

    That is propaganda and not based in reality. What are you personally doing to meet your desires pay wise without waiting on someone else to give it to you? Based on this post either way you are wanting someone else to give you what you want be it the 1%, government, or unions.
     
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    All you have to do is read the history books. Look at the pay scale, and working conditions they had to deal with prior to unions coming to the forefront. They made the owners insure better wages and safer conditions. Why do you think all the jobs have been shipped to other countries? Less money per hour.

    I don't want anyone to give me ANYTHING. I believe in one carrying their own weight. But the cost of living is going up higher than the pay raises. How can anyone make it when they make less each year? Corporate america is out to break unions, and bring the pay scale down.
     
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    That was then which is not an excuse for government control(which is what Obama and his buddies want).

    It is a nice political line but does not reflect reality. Excessive business taxes and more importantly excessive regulations are the true culprit. And I do not blame them. Americans should be free to do business here or anywhere in the world they want. That is the joy of freedom.

    No, the unions have gotten equally greedy and corrupt. There is a lot more going here than just pay scales. The current unions are not better than the worst corporations. The greed and corruption is equal on both sides of the fence. So what are you doing to earn more money besides waiting on corrupt unions to give it to you?
     
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    When I read this two elementary points came to mind:

    1. A business does not exist to employ people. Its purpose is to return a profit on moneys risked by owners/investors. They, not the workers, own the profit in the good times just as much as they own the loss in the bad.

    2. If you're unhappy enough with your situation, you are free to look for employment elsewhere. You're not a slave.

    Too many have the idea that they work for their unions and not for their employers.
     
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    You're a liberal.

    You won't vote for anyone even close to being a conservative.

    Using Gingrich's character as a stated reason not to vote for him is at least disingenious and dishonest at the worst.

    Character means nothing to liberals . Never has.
     
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    Newt's character speaks for itself. Trying to oust someone while he was doing the same thing? I don't condone what Clinton did, but his hand was in the same cookie jar.
     
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    did he not repent?
     
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    You have drank the poison of the liberal media. Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about several things. The liberals made it look like it was for adultery and the poor, unthinking members of the unions bought it. Why? Because they were told to believe this, by the liberals that think for them told them to.
     
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