I apologize if this doesn't belong here (or if humor is not allowed ), but this debate thread seems to be all about soteriology at times and not just Calvin/Arminian/Pelagian debate so I thought it kinda fit here more than in the General Baptist Theology thread. I grew up Southern Baptist, and praise God for SS teachers and parents that got me into studying the Word from even a young age. When I mentioned humor above, what I mean is this: Like most boys, I loved science-fiction. Somewhere in my pre-teens, I can remember reading John 10:16 and thinking about what if Jesus meant another planet when he talked about another fold. I wondered if he meant that there were sentient species created by God on other planets that He was going to redeem as well Is there any question that Jesus is speaking of the Gentiles? It looks as if He is still talking to some Jewish "religious" types in this chapter and that "this fold" is the Jews, and the "other sheep" are the Gentiles. I was reading this chapter this morning, and for some reason that verse made me remember my silly thoughts as a child about aliens. Oh, and along the lines of what I said in the first paragraph, has there been any thought about having forums here dedicated to Soteriology, Ecclesiology, Eschatology, etc? Am I correct in that most Soteriology stuff is valid in this forum even if it is not directly related to Calvinism/Arminianism?