Obama ad slams McCain on abortion rights

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  1. Andy T.

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    This is what professing Christians are buying into when they support Obama:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13103.html

    From the ad: “John McCain's out of touch with women today. McCain wants to take away our right to choose. That's what women need to understand. That's how high the stakes are.”

    Choose what? Notice how they always truncate the statement, "right to choose." Choose what? They never say it, because the sales pitch of the pro-abortion movement is to make it sound so American by touting the word "choice" with their pro-death slogans. And also notice how they realize how high the stakes are in this election. Too bad some professing Christians don't even realize this.

    Vote for Obama and you know for sure that abortion will be kept legal for a longer time than it should be.
     
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    Neither do the libs want women to be given full disclosure as to what they are doing. Any attempt to educate women as to just exactly what they are wanting to abort is met with visceral hostility.
     
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    I saw a news clip yesterday that said Obama was launching campaign ads that tout his pro choice stance and criticize McCain for his pro life stance.

    I think this is a dumb move by Obama and a good thing for McCain.

    AJ
     
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    Sadly, based on some of the comments posted by Christians on this board, it appears that political goals trump Biblical prohibitions on the taking of innocent life. What is more innocent than an unborn baby? The liberal wing of society is now criticizing Gov. Palin for choosing to allow her Down's syndrome baby to be born. How many subscribers to this board will join that chorus?
     
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    Someone's not telling the truth here. Who is it?

    We have Obama and the Dems saying that McCain is dangerous for abortion rights. We have KenH, LeBuick, Dragonfly, JerryL, and others saying he is not a danger. So is Obama not telling the truth when he says that McCain is a danger? Or are these others not telling the truth when they say that he isn't?

    And in either case, can we trust any of them?
     
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    Great question, PL.

    The abortion lobby knows how to keep pro-life values from winning this battle - they realize the only way we can win is by incrementalism (sometimes very small increments) and so they realize that all pro-life candidates are a threat to their love of abortion, because the small steps are chipping away at their "right to choose"...murder. But the ones who want to justify their vote for pro-abortion candidates say that abortion is still legal after X years. Either they don't understand the battle, or they use this as an excuse to soothe their consciences, because they want to vote for Dems because they like class warfare, are anti-security, or fill-in-the-blank of their favorite anti-Biblical causes.
     
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    The pro-abortion crowd believes any steps at all are a threat. There is a section of pro-life people who believe that anything short of everything is unacceptable. They reason that since McCain will not totally end abortion, we should not vote for him. These sides are essentially the same in that they are willing to have nothing at all done about abortion.

    It is sad to see some of these types here on the board.
     
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    This quote from the article in the OP says it all

    “Let me tell you: If Roe vs. Wade is overturned, the lives and health of women will be put at risk. That's why this election is so important,” says the nurse-practitioner who narrates Obama’s ad. “John McCain's out of touch with women today. McCain wants to take away our right to choose. That's what women need to understand. That's how high the stakes are.”

    An announcer then claims that “as president, John McCain will make abortion illegal,” before playing an exchange on "Meet the Press" in which McCain told moderator Tim Russert that he favors “a constitutional amendment to ban all abortions.”

    “We can't let John McCain take away our right to choose. We can't let him take us back,” says the ad.


    AJ
     
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    What is also sad, is that some on here care so little about their country, that they will listen blindly to this lip service that these polititians give and blindly vote for someone on the mere basis that "they say" they are against an issue merely to get someone to vote for them. One of the issues of which I don't give a hoot about is the marriage issue. It's not my job to worry about who gets married. The other issue is one that I personally am tired of hearing said "lip service" and will no longer vote for them on that one issue.
     
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    What do you propose Jerry? Anarchy? Do you want to totally overthrow the government?

    You sound like a militant cultist.

    We ALL know that America needs some drastic changes, but your attitude of total rebellion is very unnerving.

    Do you want to mobilize the citizens and overtake the government so that you can straighten it all out?

    We need changes but your idea of total rebellion is just nutty.

    AJ
     
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    Somebody brought up the excellent point about Bush's supreme court nominees. That's how we start this move.
     
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    The lip service theory is a fallacy.
     
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    It borders on lunacy, not fallacy.

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    As opposed to those who care so little they will vote for someone who doesn't even give lip service? Let's get real people.

    But to call it merely lip service is to deny what was actually accomplished. Not enough was done, but some was done.



    So? Remember that the fact that you don't care may say more about you than the issue. Lots of people don't care about important things. Is marriage important? Only if the Bible is. Otherwise, it doesn't matter. But the reality is that the marriage issue is one that there is a lot of misinformation on.

    People says homosexuals don't have the right to marry. That is an outright lie. They are perfectly able to marry. No one is stopping them but themselves.
     
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    And this thread is about abortion, anyway, not homosexual marriage. Let's stay on topic, please.

    This election is very important because of what was pointed out earlier, the selection of Supreme Court Justices.

    I am tired of this society of death that has been forced down our throats by the pro-choice pro-abortion crowd. The only ones who don't have a "choice" are the 4000 babies who are slaughtered every day in this country, infanticide sacrifices to the god of selfishness.
     
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    What total rebellion? All I've said is I won't fall for the dangling carrot routine anymore. I'll vote for more than one issue. Where are you getting this anarcy and taking over the country stuff? Have I even implied that? NO.
     
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    In my voting on these issues in the last, say 25 years, we have 2 judges and a ban on partial birth. Wow.
     
  18. Andy T.

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    No, make that 4 judges - you are forgetting about Scalia and Thomas. Those 4 judges would have never seen the light of day with a Democrat in the White House. We are close to having a pro-life majority in the S.C. Very close. But it looks like you don't care. Sad.

    And again, why do you put a timetable on winning this battle?
     
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    Folks need to feel better about ignoring the lives of the unborn.
     
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    But it's ok to kill soldiers needlessly and kill innocent people in their own country?
     

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