Obama Goes Easy on Shoe Bomber

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  1. OldRegular

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    Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:41 PM

    By:*Jim Meyers

    The Obama Justice Department has withdrawn the "special administrative measures" imposed at the federal prison in Colorado against "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid, the jihadist who tried to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight in 2001.

    Special administrative measures (SAMs) are security directives, renewable yearly, issued by the attorney general when "there is a substantial risk that a prisoner’s communications, correspondence or contacts with persons could result in death or serious bodily injury" to others."

    National Review Online's Andy McCarthy writes: "Why abandon the SAMs? Because they were a violation of Reid's First Amendment rights to free speech and free exercise of his religion, of course.

    From Here
     
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    He is in Supermax, even with "normal" privileges I doubt he is able to have much in the way of communication with others. I saw a program on life in the Supermax a few years ago. They are extremely restricted even without SAMs.

    He is not going anywhere. Rest easy.
     
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    This isn't a concern over whether he is "going anywhere" or not.

    The concern is about "communications, correspondence or contacts with persons could result in death or serious bodily injury" to others."

    All it requires is contact with one person who is willing to pass information to and from him to others.

    This is a stupid and unnecessary intervention by the Obama cadre - again.
     
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    always the friend of muslim terrorists.
     
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    You just can't help yourself, can you?
     
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    Apparently Obama can't help himself. Wonder why?
     
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    The SAMs come up for review annually. It is not an intervention and I doubt Obama was asked about it. From what I know there is almost no communication allowed for those without SAMs, much less those with them.
    You folks just want something else to whine about, but seemingly have no information of how a Supermax is run or the procedures there.


     
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    I didn't say Obama - I said Obama cadre.

    Well, since you write as though you have intimate knowledge of Supermax procedures...

    What is the actual change that will take place for this prisoner with the removal of the special administrative procedures?
     
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    When was the US attorney appointed to her job? Was it under Obamb, Bush, Clinton?



    How 'bout you doing a bit of your own research and maybe you will find out. I used to be amazed at how little if any research the conservatives on this board showed in their posts. I am no long surprised at their simply asking questions, but seldom giving facts.
     
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    Yes, well I should have expected as much.

    You attempted to write as though you have more actual knowledge than you do.

    My bad, I took the bait.
     
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    You should have some facts to back up your criticisms.
     
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    If you have information to share - then you should share it.

    Otherwise your little rant about people doing research is off topic.

    And may I say, crabby, your nom-de-plume fits.
     
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    Could be a different man. Recall the old pictures?
     
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    Naw, it's the same bleeding heart as before.
     
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    Reid should have been executed.

    Then we wouldn't have to discuss Obama's weakness on national security issues.
     
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    How about an ejection port on those planes. Save a lot of trouble. And money.
     
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    Now this is a new level of fear, a spirit which God didn't give you. Being his calls and mail are censored, there is nothing he could convince someone to do that they didn't already have a mind to do.

    "The sky is falling, the sky is falling"...
     
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    Oh, but don't you know. It is so much easier to slander if you have no facts, but rely on innuendo and slander. Let's all repeat the cheer of the nutty right together:

    "Muslim, Antichrist, Kenyan too,
    Obama ain't no good for you.
    He'll kill your grandma, take your guns,
    Socialist medicine, then we're done!"
     
  19. poncho

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    Maybe if y'all took your own advice and did some serious research into the Obama (Wallstreet) administration you might find out the nutty right ain't so nutty after all.

    Note: Citing mainstream propaganda doesn't count as serious research. :smilewinkgrin:

    The shoe bomber. :laugh:

    What a maroon! :wavey:
     
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    Yes, learning is dangerous as it forces a person to give up long held, greatly loved ideas that are found to be wrong.

    Most people know the first 7 words of this quote, but not the entire quote and thus they believe they know what Pope was saying, but have it exactly wrong ... which proves his point.

    Back to the topic, SMAs are often imposed to protect the offender from harm or death from other prisoners where it is felt there is danger.

     
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