Obama Medical Care - Old Folks, HURRY UP!!! DIE!!!

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  1. OldRegular

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    Two-thirds of morbidity or mortality among Medicare patients is from cancer or heart disease. Yet ObamaCare will cut payments to cardiologists by 11% overall and radiation oncologists by 19%.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574443472658898710.html

    In President Obama's Washington, medical specialists are slightly more popular than the H1N1 virus. Compared to bread-and-butter primary care doctors, specialists cost more to train and make more use of expensive procedures and technology—and therefore cost the government more money. Even so, the quiet war Democrats are waging on specialists is astonishing.

    From Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus's health-care bill to changes the Administration is pushing in Medicare, Democrats are systematically attacking specific medical fields like cardiology and oncology. With almost no scrutiny, they're trying to engineer a "cheaper" system so that government can afford to buy health care for all—even if the price is fewer and less innovative ways of extending and improving lives.

    Take a provision in the Baucus bill that would punish any physician whose "resource use" is considered too high. Beginning in 2015, Medicare would rank doctors against their peers based on how much they cost the program—and then automatically cut all payments by 5% to anyone who falls into the 90th percentile or above. In practice, this rule will only apply to specialists.

    Since there will always be a missing chair when the music stops, every year one of 10 physicians will be punished if he orders too many tests, performs too many procedures or prescribes too many drugs—whether or not the treatments result in better patient outcomes. The 5% fine is substantial given that Medicare's price controls already pay only 83 cents on the private dollar.

    In Medicare, meanwhile, the Administration is using regulation to change how doctors are paid to benefit general practitioners, internists and family physicians. In next year's fee schedule, they'll see higher payments on the order of 6% to 8%. The loose consensus is that the U.S. does have too few primary care doctors—less than 5% of medical students are entering the field—in part because they're underpaid.

    Fair enough. But this boost for GPs comes at the expense of certain specialties. The 2010 rules, which will be finalized next month, visit an 11% overall cut on cardiology and 19% on radiation oncology. They're targets only because of cost: Two-thirds of morbidity or mortality among Medicare patients owes to cancer or heart disease.
     
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    A week or so back I posted an article written by David Gratzer a Canadian physician who wrote a book about their socialized system. And he showed this very problem, bureaucrats inevitiably cut service to save money.

     
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    Governor Palin sounded the alarm some weeks back when she talked of "Death Panels". If Medicare reimbursements are cut sufficiently there will be no need for "Death Panels". Old people will not get the care they need to stay alive. So the democrat message to old folks is DIE QUICKLY.
     
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    our governement is chosing who must die in order to cut costs, who isn't worthy, who has no value.
     
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    The Old Folks and one third of the unborn!
     
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    Private insurance plans would still be in place for those who can afford them. The government option is only for those who cannot. Do you think you can get an appointment today with a cardiologist without insurance? Try it. You can't.

    So, the real question is whether the needy have access to ANY medical specialists. Quit thinking about yourselves for a change and try to think about those who are less fortunate than you are.

    I think that if this were a secular humanist board instead of a "Christian" board there would be more compassion shown for the poor.
     
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    Maybe that's where you should be hangin' out, troll.
     
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    I believe I have received a "word of knowledge" about "whoever". He is not real! He is not really posting on this board! He is our conscience speaking to us!
     
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    I guess you think it's compassion when the president you voted for and fully support signed to murder more babies by partical birth abortion, and now wants to cut medicare spending for seniors because they are too expensive to have around and not worth much anyway, who by the way are poor people.
    yeah, I think another board is a good place for a troll like you
     
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    Welcome back, OR. :) I've missed you!
     
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    The Republican Party has duped the Christian Right including you into putting their politics above their faith. This has gone a long ways towards destroying Christ's church in America. i'd worry about being a part of that if I were you.
     
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    Well, we're a Christian board.

    However, you're welcome to remain as the Secular Humanist representative.
     
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    Assume you are correct that the Republican Party has duped certain Christians. At least these people can say they were duped.

    JUST WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE OTHER THAN SECULAR HUMANISM? The democrat party is rabidly in favor of the slaughter of the unborn. Your "chosen one" is in favor of the slaughter of the just born. The democrat party has used the poor, both white and black, since the days of FDR to propagate their Marxist agenda, yet done nothing for them.

    As I recall during the days of the Viet Nam war it was the "so-called Christian left" that advocated violence in the streets. After Viet Nam and Roe v Wade these same people, Secular Humanists Like You, pushed violence in the abortuaries.

    Now this SECULAR HUMANIST PARTY YOU LOVE is trying to ration medical care to those who need it most, those elderly on Medicare. And you have the hypocritical audacity to lecture those Christians on this Forum about their Faith! Pathetic "whoever".
     
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    Seems there are a lot of wolves in sheep's clothes on these fourms. They can be spotted......out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
     
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    Well, thank goodness we can look to you as a paragon of what "faith without politics" looks like.

    I'm curious. When you have chronic systemic hypocrisy, is it painful?
     
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    "whoever' is willing to endure whatever pain ensues from chronic systemic hypocrisy for the greater benefit of mankind. The purchase price of that supposed benefit is the premature deaths of Old Folks through cuts in Medicare by the democrat Congress and their "chosen one".

    In the Bible we read of the pagans sacrificing their children to placate their idols. Occasionally Israel would join in. Some "professing Christians" do the same today by endorsing the continued sacrifice of the unborn to the god of Secular Humanism.
     
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    I thought that was the conservatives plan. The liberals want to spend money on health care so no one has to die for lack thereof.
     
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    It gets worse than that, did you hear about rewriting the bible to better support conservative views? Now that is scary...
     
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    What a ridiculous, uninformed comment.
     
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    The liberals. They think giving with other people's money is charity.
     

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