Obama reacts like calm leader, McCain like partisan hack

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  1. KenH

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    The title is my description. Okay?

    This what Senator Obama said:

    "There are going to be some bumps and trials and tribulations and ups and downs before we get this regulation package done," he said. "It’s important for the American public and for the markets to stay calm, because things are never smooth in Congress, and to understand that it will get done -- that we are going to make sure an emergency package is going to get put together because it is required for us to stabilize the markets."


    This is what Senator McCain's campaign put out:


    "From the minute John McCain suspended his campaign and arrived in Washington to address this crisis, he was attacked by the Democratic leadership: Sens. Obama and [Harry] Reid, Speaker Pelosi and others. Their partisan attacks were an effort to gain political advantage during a national economic crisis. By doing so, they put at risk the homes, livelihoods and savings of millions of American families.
    Barack Obama failed to lead, phoned it in, attacked John McCain, and refused to even say if he supported the final bill.

    Just before the vote, when the outcome was still in doubt, Speaker Pelosi gave a strongly worded partisan speech and poisoned the outcome.

    This bill failed because Barack Obama and the Democrats put politics ahead of country."

    - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/obama-mccain-ca.html



     
  2. LeBuick

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    It is a political chess game isn't it? These two guys are danged if they do and danged if they don't. Neither one of them can do any right. I don't remember who said you have to be a fool to run for office but that person was sure right.
     
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    Obama was anything but a calm leader. He played a political game just like McCain did. Time will tell who wins it. To quote Obama's words against a McCain commercial is an example of the kind of silliness that the Obama campaign puts out all the time. Only the most naive believe it. It really doesn't even take any thought to not be convinced by it .
     
  4. KenH

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    Huh? Who said anything about a commercial? If you are referring to what I quoted it was a press release from the McCain campaign.
     
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    If indeed Obama was calm it is because his handlers have yet to explain to him what is going on. They are trembling in their boots because Obama's advisors have been cooking the freddie mac and fanny mae books. I see jail time for lots of democrats and even a few Republicans but surely lots of democrats.
     
  6. KenH

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    When someone breaks the law he/she should be punished appropriately regardless of politics, religion, race, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation.
     
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    How does a release by McCain's campaign show that he reacts like a hack?

    You are getting it bad Ken. Until recently you kept yourself above the tactics the other side uses. I have disagreed, though admired you for that.

    Your point would have been better supported by using quotes by the two men instead of Obama's words vs. a campaign press release.
     
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    Actually, this crisis is showing there is not much difference between Bush, McCain or Obama....

    They are all for the bailout!

    Why does the politicians think we WANT them to fix it?

    I don't.... let things be, and see what happens.

    DC is not my God... I don't trust them...

    It is ironic that the phrase, "in God we trust" is on our money...
    But DC wants us to trust them...


    OH, has anyone noticed the price of oil is falling?

    Hmmmm..... Bad huh?
     
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    You think they put out anything but commercials?

    We must have a different definition of "recently" because Ken's tactics go back to previous elections. He has made these kinds of attacks on Bush, Kerry, Clinton, and others long before he directed them at McCain and Palin. To try to present this situation as Obama being a calm leader and McCain a partisan hack is ridiculous.
     
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    Yep, all we have to do is dig back through the 2004 election threads for proof of it.

    The good news is that Ken has a record of being on the losing side on election night. If he was for McCain-Palin, I'd be worried. :)
     
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    Oh no. This cannot be. KenH has such an extensive knowledge of political history how could he be wrong? Why we are even questioning his judgment to begin with is beyond me.
     
  12. KenH

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    For the record, I have voted for a major party presidential candidate 4 times - Carter in 1976, Reagain in 1984, Bush in 2000, and Bush in 2004. Each time the major party candidate I voted for won. :)
     
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    Why are you voting in favor of murder?
     
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    Anyone who has been on this board for any length of time know that Ken is a confused individual. Anyone who can go from Ron Paul to Barak Obama obviously [personal attack deleted]. BTW Ken. Ron Paul voted no on the bill. Is he wrong now?
     
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    I think the focus is how McCain reacts to crises.

    1. When Georgia was invaded, he called Putin. I would like to see us use diplomacy before the president calls.
    2. During Gustav, he went to an emergency center in MS. I would like to have seen those workers focusing on the emergency.
    3. He also canceled the first day of his convention because of Gustav, Ike receive no thought
    4. When the crices first hit, he was on the tube the next morning with his six point fix plan. (see below)
    5. Then of late, he cancels his campaign to go to the Hill.

    He seems to make decisions off the cuff which I don't like in a leader. I would like to see him think things through, get input from others then make a decision that is best all around. I don't like his quick decisions or his reaction in crises.
     
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    Well, when a skeeter bites me, I dont have to "think it through" before I swat it.

    I like the idea of a president that actually does something instead of just talks about it. (Or just calls Washington long distance and tells them to get busy)

    A hands on president is what this country needs.

    AJ
     
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    I agree. McCain just has never been a photo-op guy. I don't know how I'll vote, but this is just a nonsense partisan hackery thread.
     
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    I know its a silly thread, but it is fun to watch Ken argue with everybody:thumbs:

    AJ
     
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    He twists like Chubby Checker.
     
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    I agree there are times for quick actions, invading a country or even passing economic legislation just doesn't seem one of those. If the building was on fire, sure, grab the extinguisher real quick. If you want to remodel the building, I think you should take your time and do it right.

    So look at the examples I gave, particularly when McCain called Putin. We really can't afford another war so we should try diplomatic means before we reach our final negotiating tool (the president). I thought that was one bone head thing to do. Our military is stretched as it is.

    @ Bro Curtis, you are wrong about McCain and photo ops. He is no different than anyone else from DC. In fact, remember when he and two other guys were loading one box showing how they were helping to get Gustav victims supplies. I thought what a waste. Each one should have had their own box if they were serious about helping. But oh no, the first guy picked the item up and handed it to McCain who would place it in the box. Now if that isn't for the camera's I don't know what is.
     

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