Obama supporters: Deceived or just plain liars?

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  1. poncho

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    More truth from Devvy Kidd.

    Obama supporters might want to skip reading this about their hero so I've decided to have compassion towards them. I'll just post the link to Devvy's article that way they can choose to avoid the discomfort reading it may cause them.

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd434.htm

    Yeah, I got kind of stuck on Devvy tonight. :type:
     
  2. Revmitchell

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    From the article:

    - Obama has a team of lawyers who have spent between $800,000 and $1,000,000 to keep his vault certificate showing his birth place sealed. Why on earth would anyone do such a thing?

    - Several members of Congress tried to legislate his citizenship last year. It didn't work. You cannot amend the U.S. Constitution with a resolution.

    - Do you know the State of Illinois Election Board says they have no paperwork on Obama when he ran for the Illinois State Senate? How can that be? What is there to hide?

    - Why did Obama aka Soetoro lie on his Illinois Bar Application when he said he has never used any other name but Barack Hussein Obama when we know that is a provable lie?

    - Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro and so forth has always known he was not eligible to run and he did anyway. He has committed fraud and used his campaign to unlawfully raise over $600 million dollars both on radio and television. No one is above the law.
     
  3. Magnetic Poles

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    False dichotomies never cause me any discomfort...only pity for those whose thinking is so skewed.
     
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    Which false dichotomy are you referring to...

    Left - Right ?
    Liberal - Conservative ?
    Democrat - Republican?

    Politics and social issues are not all black and white.

    There are points along the continuum.

    But you must admit that Obama and his cadre and followers occupy a portion of the continuum that many thinking Christians find quite disturbing.
     
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    More questioning of the obvious. The false dichotomy is the title...stating that if one supports the President of the United States, that they must be one of two things...a liar or deceived. Many other options are available.
     
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    Thank you for clarifying.
     
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    No problem. BTW, I totally agree with you on the fact that everything you mentioned is a continuum, not binary in nature.
     
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    This is what your lying mental midget says:

    "Even though both the campaign and the Hawaii Secretary of State have released documents that refute claims that Obama was born somewhere other than Hawaii, some members of the conspiracy-minded right find the issue to be a useful outlet for their anti-Obama crusade."

    Obama has answered these fraudulent claims. Get over it. He's the president of the United States. You and your ilk were the same people who went after Clinton with a vengeance for cheating on his wife. Impeached him for that. What a travesty of "justice." Then you claimed that your man GW was a Christian even thogh he said twice publicly that:

    1. Muslims and Christians worship the same god and,

    2. Muslims will get to heaven but by a different route than Christians, i.e. not by proclaiming Jesus Christ to be their Lord and Savior.

    Completely a lie. This so-called Christian Right movement has nothing Christian about it. It's all about Republican politics.
     
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    Yet when Obama says the same you get irate when others say he is not a Christian. Both he and W are cut from the same cloth and it is not a Christian one. It is one of political expediency. Trying to be the President of all the people, a complete and total impossibility btw.

    Now get back on the subject of this thread.

     
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    Whether or not he is a Christian is not central to the question of whether he's doing a good job as president, which he is. I primarily object to W's hypocrisy and to the hypocrisy of those who supported him because he was a "good Christian president." Jimmy Carter was a good Christian president but I doubt you supported him because he was a Democrat. Give up the charade. You're not concerned about religion. You only care about politics.
     
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    Yep, You are correct on both counts. I have a lifestyle relationship with my Savior not a religion and I follow politics because I want to fight for the innocent. The US political system currently allows for this and as such I will not stand in support of any that support abortion or abortion supporters (of which Jimmy Carter was and still is).

     
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    Hey cool yer jets! Here's a little factoid for you to chew on. I was one of the most rabid anti Bush/Neocon people on this here board! Period! Ask anybody on this board that has been around longer than you how many times I went after Bush and his crew of corporate criminals with the same amount of energy as I'm going to keep going after Barry now.

    From now on do us all a favor eh? Know what you're talking about and who you are talking to before you start ranting and tossing all those ridiculous memorized party talking points around, okay?

    I'm going to level with you. Both parties are corrupt and ethically bankrupt and full of lying liars including your Barry or whatever his name really is. If you were at all interested in the truth you'd see that. Picking a side between these two empty sepulchers we call political parties would be the last thing on your mind. Standing up for the republic against these low life usurpers, professional liars and thieves who inhabit (infest is a better word) our government would be foremost on your mind.

    Anbody here who actually knows me care to clue this person "alatide" in on how I abhor the criminality of both parties equally?
     
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    Poncho- the equal-opportunity slammer.

    But facts matter little to this troll, best to just chuckle at his ill-informed hateful rants. Just wait until he tells you he's highly educated.
     
  15. poncho

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    No need for him to tell me that Bro I can see it for myself already. :laugh:

    Anybody who runs away and hides behind a pack of lawyers instead of doing the simple common sense and right thing, showing us the documents we ask for, is hiding something and acting awfully guilty in doing so.
     
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    And that is the crux of the whole matter and it is what brings him into question. Liberals want him President whether he qualifies or not so they can only taunt and make fun of the facts.
     
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    Could anyone have convinced Just Christian, Baptist Believer, and I believe the third was Freedom? Couldn't then can't now.

    alatide is either one of four identical quads or this is his 4th moniker.
     
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    What other choice do they have Rev? All the facts are against them.
     
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    You're telling it straight. You're consistent.

    alatide is a troll.
     
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    Is this really smoking gun of Obama's Kenyan birth?

    Attorney files motion for authentication of alleged 1960s certificate from Africa

    WASHINGTON – California attorney Orly Taitz, who has filed a number of lawsuits demanding proof of Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president, has released a copy of what purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth and has filed a new motion in U.S. District Court for its authentication.

    The document lists Obama's parents as Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Obama, formerly Stanley Ann Dunham, the birth date as Aug. 4, 1961, and the hospital of birth as Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.

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    Taitz's motion, filed yesterday in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, requests the purported evidence of Obama's birth – both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not yet obtained – be preserved from destruction, asks for permission to legally request documents from Kenya and seeks a subpoena for deposition from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    "I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds," Taitz told WND. "I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate].

    "I'm forcing the issue, where Obama will have to respond," she said.

    "Before, they said, 'You don't have anything backing your claims,'" Taitz explained. "Now I have something. In fact, I have posted on the Internet more than Obama has. My birth certificate actually has signatures."

    SOURCE

    I wonder if Orly Taitz is worried about being Arkancided?
     
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