Obama: Will discard Bush Exec. Orders He deems *unconstitional*

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  1. LadyEagle

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    http://www.denverpost.com/ci_8492078

    He will do this by his own Executive Order, of course. So, he alone will have the power to decide what former administrations (not just Bush) Executive Orders he wants to discard. Which ones will that be?

    And, above, all...what NEW Executive Orders will he impose on the people of these United States?

    This is scary stuff, folks.

    And yes, I still believe that after he is sworn in, he will one day make a pronouncement that he is "returning to the religion of his father" and become a full fledged muslim. And it will be within his power to declare Sharia Law as the law of the land, by Executive Order, and our own national guard and military will be required to enforce it and impose it upon all of us.

    That is my opinion and I'm sure there are some here who will say I'm jumping to unfounded conclusions, using scare tactics, taking things out of context, "smearing the name of a good man," blah, blah, blah. It has happened on here before. So, big deal, I'm just asking that we stay on topic and discuss the rhetorical question of what if it happened????
     
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    I agree with you that he is a dangerous man. And the saddest thing of all is that the media has worked the country into such a frenzy of Bush hating that good folks, even alot of Christians are going to vote for this man.

    AJ
     
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    The sky is falling!!! The sky is falling!!!

    LE you are going to look back on these type of posts someday and wonder why you were so afraid. To ease your troubled mind, even the President cannot overturn the Constitution to that extent with an executive order, although Bush has given it a good try.

    I applaud Obama for this. Goodbye warrantless spying, and the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives. It is past time, and I find these statements cause to rejoice.
     
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    Why would executive orders by Obama be any different that executive orders by Bush?
     
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    Good question. I'm saying they might be worse!:eek:

    Ever heard of Executive Order and REX 84? Look it up on Wikipedia or some source you think might be reliable.

    Wrong. REX 84 and FEMA is a good example. And then there's this little thing called Martial Law....

    Read about Martial Law here: http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html
     
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    This isn't new. Executive orders are frequently reviewed and changed when a change of administration occurs.
     
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    Shouldn't we be concerned as well as to what JSM III would do with executive orders if he becomes president?
     
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    It's my opinion too, LE.

    I hope and pray that we CAN look back one day and see these posts were not necessary, but I'm not holding my breath.

    Me thinketh the wolf hath pulled the wool over the sheep's eyes so they will not see the truth until it's too late.

    This is the first time in my life that I have truly been afraid of an election!
     
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    Yes, I agree, as I would not be surprised that if JSM III becomes president that 2008 will the last year that we have a presidential election for a while unless he is restrained from starting a war with Iran. The economic repercussions of such an action would very likely destroy the American economy for at least a decade and lead to all kinds of economic dislocation, riots, etc, with the imposition of marshall law.
     
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    JSM doesnt have a left wing, pro gay, pro abortion, anti-military, anti-American, anti-white, socialist agenda........B Hussein Obama does.

    AJ
     
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    You know, they have meds that will help all the bad voices go away. :laugh:
     
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    That is a clever insult, but it doesnt change the documented statements that Obama has made regarding these issues that I have listed.

    Denying the truth doesnt make it go away.

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    I have to say - if I were elected President I too would want to clean up any previous executive orders that I felt were not necessary. I would not want to be bound by previous president's policies. They are, after all, not the decisions of the people.
     
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    I think that LE's concern here, as well as mine, is just what kind of executive orders will Obama impose? If they reflect some of the statements that he and his wife have recently made then we are in trouble.

    AJ
     
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    The "Executive Order" has always been a danger. I agree, we don't know what Executive Order any president would impose. There is always the fear of the unknown with a new president. For example, Sen McCain, in one of his documented fits of rage could issue any kind of executive order

    As far as "what if threads" go we could do that forever.

    "What is Pres McCain issued an Executive Order interring all Arab American citizens? This is just as likely as Sen Obama using an Executive Order to declare a "Muslim America." Does any one really think Congress and the Supreme Court would roll over and play dead? Does anyone really think the army would obey his orders should he order them to disperse Congress? Does anyone really think 300 million freedom loving Americans would just submit?

    What if? He would be impeached within hours. If he survived those hours.


    I have no fear of a Muslim America. These same question were posed in 1960 when small segments of the population feared that Pres Kennedy would turn America over to Rome.
     
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    The muslim America thing doesnt worry me...no way that could happen.

    I am more concerned about some of his liberal social issues like gay marriage and abortion, and most of all our national security. If he reduces our military any further and disarms our nuclear arsenal then we are in trouble.

    If he pulls out of Iraq now, and leaves it open for Iran to move in....and they will....then we are facing the prospects of another world war. Iran would control something like a quarter of the world's oil supply, and they would be able to put missles on the western border of Iraq making it much easier to reach Isreal. And they have promised to "wipe Isreal off the face of the map".

    These are some of the things that fall under executive decision that he realistically could use to harm us.

    AJ
     
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    Well the topic of this threadi is Obama declaring a Muslim America. There is no way the the US military will side with him vs Congress and the will of the people.

    There is no evidence that he would use executive order to allow partial birth abortion or gay marriage. Sen Clinton alsos favours those we don't suspect her of doing this.

    I am HUGELY concerned about what little we know his Obama's foreign policy, but I have no concern that he will use an executive order to carry it out.

    Executive orders in the past have worked because Congres has stood with the president. Neither Congress, the military, nor the America people will stand for a dictator, much less one who attempts to subvert all of US law and replace it with Sharia law.

    What if? He would not be president more than a couple of hours. I still have a little faith in my country.
     
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    Conservative Christians would be even more unhappy about how JSM III would conduct his presidency than they have been about President Bush's actions.

    JSM III is not a conservative in the Ronald Reagan mold. Not even close.
     
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    I have to disagree a little here. I believe Americans will gladly submit to a dictatorship given the right "pretexts". We gave the state a blank check after just one such pretext not so long ago. And besides a high tech (multinational & mercenary) militarized police state conditioned to obey orders is already in place waiting to be given the green light...by whom ever is "next" to sit in the oval office.

    Martial law is only one "attack" away from realization. The people will fall all over themselves for "the man on the white horse".
     
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