obama's lie and hypocrisy

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  1. Revmitchell

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    "The biggest problems that we’re facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all. And that’s what I intend to reverse when I’m president of the United States of America."~Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Sotero
     
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    You remember when kids would take a calendar and toward the end of the school year would "X" out the day and then count the remaining ----- say, old chap-----how many more days do we have to "X" out until his rule is GONE?????:thumbsup::laugh::wavey:
     
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    Four posts already this morning on Obama.

    Sees you are obsessed.
     
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    Since the Republicans only objective is to block everything President Obama proposes this is the only way America can react to the increasing economic crisis in the world. I'd love to see some cooperation from the other side of the aisle to save the future of our country but it seems they just don't have anything to offer.
     
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    It is the duty of republicans in Congress to stop Obama's power grabs and thwart his destructive policies.

    Our constitution is set up that way. If Obama was less of a divider , he would have far more success passing legislation.

    As it is, he is nothing but a very powerful empty suit, who can only get his policies through with illegal executive actions.

    He should be impeached for his repeated flouting of the laws of the land.
     
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    There is no democracy without honest debate on the issues and arrival at a concensus. The Republicans simply refuse to do that. What kind of government would you prefer, a dictatorship by the Radical Right?
     
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    It is well known and the GOP has said they held a meeting before Obama was sworn into office in 2009 that they would oppose everything he proposed ... and they had done that, even opposing ideas they had been pushing to become law.

    Remember when Mitch filibustered his own idea that he had just proposed because the Democrats agreed?

    There are those on the board who are obsessed and will continue to post multiple posts about Obama daily.

     
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    Apparently you prefer one by the radical left Obama.
     
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    No I prefer an honest debate and a concensus. There can be no such thing with the do-nothing Republicans.
     
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    That is DNC talking points, not reality. Obama told Republicans his first term they would have to sit in the back of the bus. And he did it on national TV. You need to get your facts straight.
     
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    The problem is that Obama is not a consensus builder. He is an ideological divider, unwilling to compromise. A wannabe dictator.
     
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    How can anyone be a consensus builder if the other person, party, or group have already decided they will oppose anything you say unless you capitulate to them ... and even if you do they will continue to oppose anything you suggest ... even if you suggest what they have been proposing?
     
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    First of all, you realize we're not a Democracy, right?

    Second, am I the only one who notices the hypocrisy as this poster first says that Republicans should just surrender and go along with whatever destructive scheme Emperor Obama comes up with, but then accuses another poster of wanting a dictatorship?

    Third, if they were elected to "block Obama", then shouldn't they do what their constituents elected them to do?
     
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    Not the other party's job to rubber stamp everything you propose. Expecting them do so so is not "consensus building," it's attempted dictatorship, and now he's follow through with the real thing by simply creating "law" out of thing air with his famous line, "I've got a pen, and I've got a phone ... " Well, Great Pretender, take that pen and write your resignation, and use that phone to call somebody who gives a rat's furry behind. That's the only "consensus" action you're going to get unless you start acting like you want to govern instead of dictate.
     
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    Other presidents have done it, but they were not leftist ideologues.

    Bill Clinton comes to mind.
     
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    It was not the same. The GOP had not decided to oppose everything Clinton proposed. Clinton proposed a number of things the GOP had advocated. They accepted his proposals. The current crop of GOP congressmen/women oppose their own ideas if Obama or the Democrats agree with them.

    Remember the most extreme case of the when Mitch filibustered his own idea he had just proposed when the Democrats accepted it.

    You cannot build a consensus with folk who will not enter into an honest dialogue and have even agreed to oppose everything.
     
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    No they should not just surrender. But they should at least agree to accepting their own previously proposed ideas.

    [/quote]Third, if they were elected to "block Obama", then shouldn't they do what their constituents elected them to do?[/QUOTE]

    When they came to that agreement there was no way the American people had elected them to oppose everything. He was not even in office when they made that agreement. They simply decided to be obstructionist regardless. They put themselves ahead of the welfare of the American people ... even opposing their own previously presented ideas.
     
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    Baloney. It was even harder. Clinton had to deal with a republican majority in both houses, and did so pretty successfully,

    The difference...Clinton, despite his faults, was not an ideologue and understood he had to compromise to build a consensus.

    Obama is a leftist idealogue and will never compromise and won't let the Senate do so either.

    George W, Bush also comes to mind. With a democrat majority in one house that also made it public that they would oppose everything he put forth, he still managed to build a consesus on some important issues. But he wasn't an ideologue, either.

    For his failures, he never blamed anyone but himself. Obama blames everyone , but himself.
     
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    Yes, the GOP then would negotiate, give and take. The current crop will not negotiate. There can be no progress with anyone who refuses to negotiate in good faith, who only wants to obstruct.

    And now it is the GOP who are the ideologues and obstructionists. That is their policy.

    You cannot compromise with a group that will not compromise ... that is the current GOP. No compromise. In fact the Tea Party says any Republican who will compromise is a traitor. No way to build a consensus.

    Yes, the Democrats were willing to negotiate and to give as well as take. That is the way to build consensus. The current GOP will not do that.

    He has tried. The GOP has not tried ... only obstructed.

    If the GOP were to compromise you would be one of the first to condemn them ... like on immigration.
     
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    Obama breaks every rule for consensus building. He's a liar and he can't be trusted.

    Now that he says he will go around Congress whenever he can, he stands no chance of building a consensus, even in his own party.

    Me are witnessing the total abject failure of a president to lead.
     

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