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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by evangelist6589, Mar 9, 2015.

  1. Deacon

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    I'd have to presume you've not read Genesis with your eyes open.

    In the first two chapters of Genesis, the word DAY is used in three different ways.

    1. A full, normal day.
    2. The period that the sun shines during a day.
    3. The full period of creation, all seven day's.

    I'm the one who believes "day" should be translated like it is in Genesis, not you!

    Rob
     
  2. Sapper Woody

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    I am a YEC, apparent ager. I know that's not a long answer, but it states my position succinctly.
     
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    It doesn't. :confused:
     
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    The 10 Best Evidences from Science that Confirm a Young Earth
    "Locked" articles (indicated by the red padlock icons below) can be opened by magazine subscribers. Simply enter secret code from page four of your copy of this issue!

    #1 Very Little Sediment on the Seafloor

    For Additional Information:

    The Sands of Time: A Biblical Model of Deep Sea-Floor Sedimentation
    The Sands of Time: A Biblical Model of Deep Sea-Floor Sedimentation (pdf)
    “Sea Salt, Erosion, and Sediments” from Earth’s Catastrophic Past1 (pdf)

    #2 Bent Rock Layers

    For Additional Information:

    Rock Layers Folded, Not Fractured
    “Soft-Sediment Deformation Features” from Earth’s Catastrophic Past2 (pdf)
    “Megasequences of North America” from Earth’s Catastrophic Past3 (pdf)

    #3 Soft Tissue in Fossils

    For Additional Information:

    Two: Those Not-So-Dry Bones
    More Soft Tissue in “Old Fossils”

    #4 Faint Sun Paradox

    For Additional Information:

    The Young Faint Sun Paradox and the Age of the Solar System

    #5 Rapidly Decaying Magnetic Field

    For Additional Information:

    The Earth’s Magnetic Field Is Young
    The Earth’s Magnetic Field and the Age of the Earth
    “The Earth’s Magnetic Field” from Earth’s Catastrophic Past4 (pdf)

    #6 Helium in Radioactive Rocks

    For Additional Information:

    Helium Diffusion Rates Support Accelerated Nuclear Decay
    Young Helium Diffusion Age of Zircons Supports Accelerated Nuclear Decay
    The Age of the Earth’s Atmosphere Estimated by its Helium Content
    “Helium in Rocks and in the Atmosphere” from Earth’s Catastrophic Past5 (pdf)

    #7 Carbon-14 in Fossils, Coal, and Diamonds

    For Additional Information:

    Carbon-14 in Fossils and Diamonds
    Carbon-14 Evidence for a Recent Global Flood and a Young Earth
    Measurable 14C in Fossilized Organic Materials: Confirming the Young Earth Creation-Flood Model
    “The Pitfalls in the Radioactive Dating Methods—The Radiocarbon Dating Method” from Earth’s Catastrophic Past6 (pdf)
    “Carbon-14 Dating” from Thousands . . . not Billions7 (pdf)

    #8 Short-Lived Comets

    For Additional Information:

    Comets and the Age of the Solar System
    Kuiper Belt Objects: Solution to Short-Period Comets?
    More Problems for the ‘Oort Comet Cloud’

    #9 Very Little Salt in the Sea

    For Additional Information:

    The Sea’s Missing Salt: A Dilemma for Evolutionists
    “Sea Salt, Erosion, and Sediments” from Earth’s Catastrophic Past8 (pdf)

    #10 DNA in “Ancient” Bacteria

    For Additional Information:

    Bacterial Life in Ancient Salt



    https://answersingenesis.org/eviden...confirmayoungearth-8157&utm_campaign=20150310
     
  5. evangelist6589

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    You assume too much. A day is a literal 24-hour period to speak plainly. Is this what you believe?
     
  6. quantumfaith

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    Just thought you might have a little fun with this:

    http://www.exploratorium.edu/ronh/age/
     
  7. Don

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    Read Genesis 2:4. You're focusing on Genesis 1; Deacon is referring to ALL of the book of Genesis.
     
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    Sounds like what happens when one turns sixty. :laugh:
     
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    That website is cool. I could see how that would be a fun site for kids learning about the different planets. And I'm glad to see Pluto is included :)
     
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    If the duration of a "day" marks the time interval needed for the earth to complete one rotation, then if back in the day, the earth rotated twice as fast as today, would the day have been shorter?

    How long would a day be before the sun was set in the sky to establish the duration of a day?

    Why do so many repeatedly ignore scripture which says we do not know exactly how God created everything? Job 38.
     
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    This debate/discussion is old
     
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    You make some salient points, particularly with regard to those who lean and regard themselves as more "literalist" in nature. If memory serves correctly according the Genesis 1 account, the sun did not exist until "day four".

    You are correct, we will never understand all the mysteries which surround our planet, solar system and universe....but I do appreciate the curiosity and the desire to understand that God has granted as one of our innate attibutes.
     
  13. quantumfaith

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    I suggest it may be billions of years old. :)
     
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    I believe if God wanted us to know the age of the Earth He would have told us. People who obsess over the age of it, YEC, or OEwhatevers, are doing nothing but creating strife and division within the body and should go soak their heads.

    God created it so He is in control of it... that was the intended message.
     
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    You can actually see erosion occur, up here in the American Northwest. The gullies and trenches cut by melt off from Mt. St. Helens is already digging new river beds.

    I'm a young Earther. But we got trees that are over 6000 years old. I'm pretty sure we're a little older than that.
     
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    Let’s substitute a literal twenty-four hours’ for the word day’ and see how it confounds the text.

    And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light twenty-four hours, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first twenty-four hours.
    (Genesis 1:3-5)

    The very first mention of “day” doesn’t mean 'twenty-four hours' but the time of day-light.

    Look at Genesis chapter 2:

    Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh twenty-four hour period God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh twenty-four hour period from all his work that he had done. So God blessed the seventh twenty-four hour period and made it holy, because on it God rested from all his work that he had done in creation.

    These are the generations

    of the heavens and the earth when they were created,
    in the twenty-four hour period that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.
    (Genesis 2:1-4)

    The first chapters of Genesis banters with many words and phrases; the word, ‘day’ is the simplest of these examples.

    It is not a simple text and to say everything must be interpreted literally would do it injustice.

    Rob
     
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    and not only what Shagy said - but the age of the Earth has nothing to do with our salvation.
    That is what is most important.
     
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    Actually, I think it kind of does when you consider that the Bible tells us that sin entered the world through one man and death through sin. How does that square with an old earth/evolution?
     
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    When creation happened has nothing to do with salvation! As Sin did not enter the world until man was created - (well actually when women sinned - oh that's another thread)

    I support the possibility of the "Gap" theory - the Earth could have been created long before Man was.
     
  20. quantumfaith

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    And the vast amount of what is argued about here in BB would also fall into that very same category.
     
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