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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Jun 20, 2011.
Or do you even have the full assurance that you are saved by God?
I appeal to two scripture verses.
John 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish; neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Romans 11:29 The gifts and the calling of God are without repentance.
If grace,faith and salvation are gifts, then God does not take them back.
Once we are in the the Lord's hand, he doesn't let them go.
I have full assurance of my salvation, based upon the scripturally supported truth that if I place my faith fully on Christ alone, for my hope of eternal life...
Not *will* be saved. I AM saved.
Based upon God's promises that whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord SHALL be saved. I'm a whosoever and I called. I base my assurance upon God's promise that "my sheep will hear my voice." I hear God's voice regularly. I am a daughter of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. There's no IF. :flower:
Amen to that. I would add Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.
I base my assurance of salvation on God's promise written in His Word:
1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
God has not blessed me with a full assurance of faith though, I pray for it every day. But perhaps God has not given that assurance to the end that I have something to pray about!
Thanks for your honesy!
Looking at all of the posters on this, best advice is to read and take to heart what the Bible says about "knowing" you have Eternal Life in Christ, and do not lean on your feelings, base it on your erfection: as we all fall short even after being saved, and how you think God "feels" towards you, don't see Him loving you just if you do well one day, and not so weel the next!
I don't base my salvation on a "what" but a "WHO".
My salvation is based on the work of Christ done on my behalf and faith in that work.
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for ME!
Exactly right! :thumbsup: :flower:
'My hope is based on nothing less
Than Jesus' blood and righteousness.
I dare not trust my sweetest frame,
But wholly lean on Jesus' name.
On Christ the solid Rock I stand;
All other ground is sinking sand.
All other ground is sinking sand.'
I could write much on this, years ago I went through a real crisis of faith. My problem was understanding what faith is. I knew if I "believed" on Jesus I would be saved, but I didn't know "how" to believe. What does that mean?
I thought faith meant this continual confidence, and some folks seemed to have this, but I often doubted and had fear. I wanted to be confident like others, but the more I tried, the more I feared. I prayed and prayed for many months about this, it became an obsession and I could think of little else. People who knew me knew I was deeply troubled, but no one could help me.
I finally discovered God in his mercy has explained what faith and believeing is in many ways so all may understand.
Jn 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Believeing in Jesus is coming to him. It is coming to him in your heart for salvation. How do you do this? You simply cry out. He hears you and will receive you.
Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock; if any man hear my voice and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Believeing is opening the door of your heart and inviting Jesus in, it is an decision of the will. Do you sincerely want Jesus to come into your heart? If so, he knows and has already come in.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Believeing is calling on Jesus to save you, if you did not believe, you would not call. The calling is the outward evidence of faith in your heart.
Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have read this is the verse that showed Charles Spurgeon what it means to believe. It is looking to Jesus in dependence. Continued...
2Co 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
2Co 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
This is with out doubt assurance.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Again, believeing is coming to Jesus anyway you know how in your heart. He knows if you want to come. Are you thirsty for the water of life, are you willing to drink of it from Him? He knows our hearts, if so, you have believed or depended on him.
Jn 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
Believeing is simply asking Jesus for his living water which is the Holy Spirit.
Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; Seek and ye shall find; Knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
What do the first letters of ask, seek, and knock spell?
This is what it means to believe, to simply ask Jesus to save you.
And assurance is based on all these precious promises from God. Jesus cannot lie. Jesus never misleads, he means exactly what he said. If you come to him, open the door to him, call on him, look to him, be willing, ask of him you will be saved.
I know most here easily understand all these things, but I wrote these for Michael and others who might struggle with this. I have been there and know how troubling it is to lack assurance. But now I am thankful I went through this struggle, as I have been able to help a few others going through this. I hope I have helped again.
Never fear to do what Jesus told us all to do, come to him.
LUKE 22:42-44 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. Heb. 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
Psalms 116:1-4,7-10 I love the LORD, because he hath heard my voice my supplications. Because he hath inclined his ear unto me, therefore will I call upon [him] as long as I live. The sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains (birth pains) of hell (Sheol, Hades, death) gat hold upon me: I found trouble and sorrow. Then called I upon the name of the LORD; O LORD, I beseech thee, deliver my soul. Return unto thy rest, O my soul; for the LORD hath dealt bountifully with thee. For thou hast delivered my soul from death, mine eyes from tears, [and] my feet from falling. I will walk before the LORD in the land of the living. I believed, therefore have I spoken: I was greatly afflicted:
Based upon all these scriptures I would say Psalm 116 is Christ speaking through David about himself.
Acts 2:24,25,27,33 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains (birth pains) of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved: Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
By the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Spirit; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
I love that song. Thanks!
I base my assurance on Jesus Christ who pardoned all of my sins, and blotted them out with His blood!
I base my assurance on the fact when I lay day to go to sleep, I have a peace now, that I did not have before He saved me, a poor sinner.
I base my assurance on the fact that I can feel Him "moving" in me, feeling the "chill"(A good feeling!!!), and the goose bumps when I am driving, at work, at church, and even at home.
I base my assurance on the fact when I was deep down in sin, and I cried out from the depths of my broken heart, that He heard my cries, and He came in, bound up the strong man, cast him out, spoiled his goods, and came in and took up His abode forevermore!!
I base my assurance on the fact that He knows me as His son, and that He is my Father!!
It don't get no better than this!! Praise His sweet name!! :thumbs:!!
i am I AM's!!
I'm basing my belief that I am saved on God's promise, "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
My question is...What hymnal are you using?
I believe the first line of that hymn is:
"My hope is built on nothing less" ... not "based"
No biggie...just wondering.
No hymnal, just my somewhat fallible memory.
You are quite right: 'Built' not 'based.' Doh!
Same difference to build you have to have a foundational base.