1. Some on BB have asserted that Open Theists are honest seekers. Well, having looked into the files of open theists, that is really not the case. 2. Now, open theists have adopted the 16th-century Socinian heresy, which says that God could forgive without the ransom payment of Jesus Christ. 3. This is what open theists are now advocating; let's not be naive and commend open theists for being "honest seekers." The truth is, they are not. Gregory Boyd has a problem with Christ bearing the wrath of God on the cross to forgive sinners of their sins: "Now, there's many problems with this view, but the one that concerns me right now is that this model depicts a God who never really forgives. Suppose you owe me $100 but can't pay it. If I won't let you off the hook until I get my $100 from someone or another, I never really forgive the debt. I got my payment. So too, if God won't forgive unless someone or another (his Son) pays off the debt, then God never really forgives. He gets his payment." 4. Open theist are forced to reinterpret 2 Cor 5:21 and Rom 3:24-26 to fit their new theological model.