Palin Attack Backfired

Discussion in 'Politics' started by LeBuick, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. LeBuick

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    Wow, what a way to get egg in your face. I guess her trainers didn't tell her Kissinger, Powell and Baker said the same thing as Obama.


     
  2. LeBuick

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    I hate to say it, but she really seems out of her league in this race. I know she is getting a lot of coaching which is really showing well but I think she should spend less time trying to put Obama down and start telling us why she should be veep.
     
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    You're reaching. :laugh:

    Trying to create a controversy that's not there.
     
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    Plenty of attacks upon Palin have backfired.
     
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    She is right and Kissinger is wrong.
     
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    Why do liberals object to the truth?
     
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    Can any of you tell when she would have heard Kissinger say that?

    I don't think she is wrong on this one. Obama is.
     
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    Once again I think Palin is right. And of course the question itself is so bad its almost comical. It is a hypothetical with multiple undefined variables. Which leaders, which preconditions, what topics and conditions?

    Then the left expects Palin to be specific.
     
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    It is bad form to expect too much info from the VP candidate when the official Presidential debate hasn't take place yet. The Presidential nominees outline their policy in the debates and the VP candidates have their say as followup. Why do you think the Presidential debate is held before the VP debate? Protocol. Some here obviously don't know how the politics game in Presidential elections is played and your naivete is showing. All you need to do is check back through history to see how things are usually done.
     
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    The point was she said Barack Obama is so off base. If Barack is off base then 3 former heads of state are off base. I wouldn't call that off base, just a difference of view. By the way, Conde agrees with Palin about having conditions.

    She also validated you don't get foreign policy experience by sitting with Kissinger when you don't even know his views after the meeting.

    I still say at this point she needs to convince the nation of why she should be veep and one heartbeat away from the ova office instead of attacking Obama. Anyone who is voting for Obama at this point ain't listening but the conservative support base for her has weakened.
     
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    Every attack on Palin is going to backfire. All she has to do is be herself, she doesn't have to follow a script or anything. If she screws up the name of Zambia's prime minister or doesn't know our policy dealing with Spain (like Obama did the other day) then everyone says, well what do you expect, she is new to this. When she does anything right it blows them away that she actually knew something. Expectations are so low she has to exceed them.

    The left does not know how to attack Palin because she does not fit into their stereotype box, and the truth is that it is all smoke that keeps the attacks off McCain. Brilliant.

    What if? What if McCain lays out of the debate tonight because he is too busy "saving the country" from financial ruin and instead sends Palin as a surrogate? Would Obama debate her? What would happen?
     
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    Sad but true, is this what we want one heartbeat away from the oval office?

    I agree except to say the left has learned to leave her alone. She will make it or fall on her own merits. They have learned Palin is her best opposition and that speech had become the symbol of her inadequacy. I have heard many people begin to question, "is that all she has to say?"

    What' she going to do, read her speech? This isn't a Palin bashing comment but I really don't think she is on a level to debate Obama. McCain will have his hands full with Obama so the most Palin could get is the sympathy vote for being blown away by the big bully.
     
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    Obama supports murdering children. WHy someone looks past that I will never know.
     
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    Yes, not because of her experience but because of her values. She is the first canidate in a long time I felt like expressed anywhere close to my views. I believe she would be a better president than Obama or McCain, not because of what she has done but because of what she believes. I have great respect for what McCain has done, but disagree with him on several issues. Obama has done less than Palin and I not only disagree with what little he has done but I also disagree with what he promises to do. Palin has done little and promises much, but other canidates aren't even pretending anymore.
    But expectations would be so low she would not have to do much more. An answer of I don't know would be fine, no one would expect anything of her. They would say, "Aww, the poor little girl is doing the best she can." She could stumble through her answers and everyone would think she was wonderful and if Obama attacked anything she said he would be the big pully picking on the poor little girl. I know those are kind of sexist comments but I also think they are true. Remember Hillary in the democratic debates? All those mean guys picking on the girl? And come on that was Hillary. What was it Steinem said, "all she shares with Palin is a chromosome," or something like that? I am not saying this to praise or pick on Palin, I like her, but I think she does get a pass on a lot.
     
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    Freudian slip perhaps? :laugh::laugh: :laugh:
     
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    As opposed to the alternative? Of course.

    You are the first one I have heard say that.

    Obama is not a good debater. We have seen that multiple times. Part of it stems from not being able to think on his feet, and part of it stems from having no good ideas. Obama is a fraud, and people see that.
     
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    Your right to have this view but I hope the rest of us don't have to pay for it.

    Probably the first to have said it out loud but have you heard Obama, Biden or any of the Dem's mentioning Palin. The media has been bringing her up but only in response to her interviews and flesh pressing/foreign policy gaining trip to NY.

    If Palin was prepared to debate anyone, she would be out on the trail trying to get votes instead of cooped up in a hotel practicing for the debate. If Palin was prepared to debate anyone, McCain wouldn't have had to suspend his campaign to go to the hill and he would not have tried to delay yesterdays debate. We know all of these tactics were to try and delay or cancel the VP debate since we know McCain wanted with passion to debate Obama on foreign policy.

    You can run from the facts but that doesn't make them disappear.
     
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    The price of an Obama presidency is undeniably greater than a McCain presidency. A McCain presidency will save some hope for this nation.

    I am not sure any of this even makes sense, much less is based on facts. I don't know what Palin being prepared to debate has to do with McCain going to Washington to do what he was elected to do. I find it unbelievable that in a moment of crisis Obama looked so petty, which reminds me that he doesn't have good handlers. And I don't know what this has to do with the VP debate.

    This post may have been the most incoherent post I have ever seen from you.

    Why would I want to? The facts are what they are. They don't help you at all. I don't like them, but then my view of what this country should be is far different than you and the present crop of candidates. But at least I don't deny the facts or try to make some up.
     
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    Again, your view but the question was Palin being one heartbeat away from the seat.

    Because you are viewing the situation through Palin colored glasses. Attacking me doesn't change how the facts hurt, does it?

    You think for one minute McCain wants Obama and Biden making unanswered campaign stops? No.. He would love nothing more than to be out there telling his story. The battleground states are at risk and Obama is getting free time to make his case.

    The facts are he knows Palin needs this time to prepare for the debates. If this were not the case, Palin would be out campaigning instead of cramming for the debate. So McCain has taken the calculated risk of being deceptively on the Hill to draw attention away from the fact that Palin is cooped away in intense cramming sessions. If McCain were to be out campaigning without her everyone would ask even more so where she is. Besides, he speaks to empty seats without Palin.

    If he can get the credit for getting the two sides to work together or crafting the bail out plan, his calculated risk will work. If he doesn't get that credit, he is loosing valuable campaign time and giving his opponents free run of the country.

    As for trying to cancel last night debate, if he could have pulled that off, he would have insisted the debate be rescheduled during th VP debates time slot. If you want to borrow my glasses, you can get a better picture.
     
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    Actually the egg is on you...

    Kissinger says that you are wrong...

    Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says: "Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-...debate-tonight
     

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