Palin does not support vouchers

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  1. Revmitchell

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    The National Education Association has launched a $50 million campaign to put Sen. Barack Obama in the White House, but nevertheless it is praising Sen. John McCain’s pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate -- partly because she opposed school vouchers when she ran for governor


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    She also supported the bridge to nowhere when she ran for governor... They better hope she stays with that position.

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    Yea I think her earlier support of this bridge is a non issue. But the vouchers issue is of concern for me and another reaons not to support this ticket.
     
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    Now when it was Obama there were tons of post about flip flopping. But when she changes up it's a, "non issue".

    Are you for or against vouchers...


    This is your thread so I hope you don't mind but I really don't feel there is a one size fit all when it comes to education. Nothing that can include the minority child in the gang infested schools of the inner city and also be good for little Johnny out on the farm in po dunk or even little Sally born with a silver spoon in her mouth.

    I have noticed neither candidate proposed a solution...
     
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    I wouldn't generalize by using the phrase "tons of posting' base don what I have said. I do not speak for everyone else. What you have to understand also is there is a mistrust of genuine beliefs for the opposing side whether repub or dem. That mistrust effects these issues. I do not expect to vote for mcCain and Palin but I do not hold that mistrust for them as I do for Obama. In fact I do not think he is upfront about a great many things.


    I am for vouchers and anything that releases our schooled children the NEA, the federal government, and the indoctrination of our failing schools. Part of that has to do with my libertarian type views on the federal governments over reaching into our lives.
     
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    Do you think we should have a public school system with mandated curriculum? How do you finance this system if the private schools parents remove their money from the public system? I'm not saying this to bait you, this is the challenge I see with getting vouchers to work.


    As a Christian father I do feel I should have the choice of my child being taught creationism but I also want my child to understand evolution and all other systems.
     
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    I have no care whatsoever for the public school system until the NEA is out of the equation and Evolution is taught as what it is..a theory.


    Rom 16:19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
     
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    The private school parents are paying twice for their children's educations, once in tuition, the other in taxes to support the failed public educational system. You can blame the liberal Supreme Court again on this one. I remember when we used to have a great public education system, but that was before Prayer was taken out of Schools, etc.
     
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    I agree that private school parents are paying twice but the way it is today, they are the ones who can afford it. I'm not saying I agree with this but the question still remains how do vouchers and public schools co exist?

    As for the public system itself, No child left behind sure didn't help. I can't believe the time they spend studying for that one test...
     
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    If they are being taught what they should then what is the problem?
     
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    In theory nothing... However, in practical application, it penalizes and takes funds from schools who kids don't show up, parents don't make study or really don't care to learn. Inner city schools have names on the role of children they've never seen.

    Then it forces the school to spend extra time with the above kids while the kids who want to learn are ignored or slowed.

    In my daughters school you have to add the element whose parents don't speak English and the kids who speak very poor if any English. Because she is not in a bilingual school, the English speaking kids learning is slowed so the teachers can spend extra time getting the instruction across.

    Schools here now have to have X amount of Spanish speaking staff. The problem is the Spanish speaking kids are in every class and every activity. This makes the Spanish speaking staff have to leave their classes to communicate something etc...

    All of this adds to the pressure of the test since each of their names are on the role.
     
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    Wauchula is 66% hispanic. I hear it all the time. Nether should those who can excell be held back. The problem is that the teachers have brought this on themselves. They refuse to hold back those who do not or cannot learn. So children are graduating high school with no skills.
     
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    True... :thumbs:
     
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    This is the best thing I have heard about her so far, that she is against vouchers. Hmm, that is a traditional Baptist position.
     
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    Don't blame the teachers. They have to follow the "rules" mandated by legislators and administrators.

    As you are for vouchers ... are you for public support of Islamic schools, or Hindu schools, or Confucian schools? All these religions are present in the US and if vouchers are allowed for Christians they will have to be allowed for all.

    Also, with government money comes government control. Do you want that for Christians schools?
     
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    If evolution isn't taught as a theory the teacher should be reprimended. That goes for all other scientific theories as well including the theory of gravity.
     
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    Bingo. This is why I, as a conservative, have serious reservations about vouchers.
     
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    Teachers can manipulate the grades to look appealing tot heir agenda. I blame the teachers as well. I am against the current public schools system as it stands period. Why send money to the federal branches only to have it sent back to the states where it originated minus all the salaries and plus ungodly rules.
     
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    I have serious that many teachers teach evolution as theory.
     
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    I went to public school my kids went to public school. No problems any different then any other christians, or christian teens. The pastors son went to a christian school for 3 yrs after they moved here, he was very shy and wanted a private school, thinking it would be different then public school. Yeah, right, what he found was drugs and sex in the teenagers there too, nothing different then public school students.
     

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