Passion Documentary to show lives changed by the film

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    Also, from the web site:

    http://miraclesofthepassion.com/

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  2. Phillip

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    Interesting post, thank you. [​IMG]
     
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    My life was changed on March 31, 1991, no movie was needed.
     
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    Now, are you sure you never saw Charleton Hesston play Moses, or John the Baptizer ;) prior to 1991?
     
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    Is this any different than Benny Hinn's followers testifying on TV that the have been healed of life threatening diseases, and then when the investigative reporters do the followup, they find out that they died of the very disease they were reportedly "healed' of. This is sad for two reasons. First, it is sad because they have resorted to a circus like enviroment to try and merchandise the Gospel, and secondly, because it has been pointed out time and time again that this movie is contaminated with false teaching, idol worship, and mysticism, and it's supporters knowing this, are still trying to advance this as a tool of preaching another Gospel and another Jesus to the world. I only hope that a few years from now, that they have a followup series "Miracles of the Passion and the people who reported them, where are they now?"
     
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    From a letter written by Jack Hayford, famous pastor of the Church on The Way, a four square church with approximately 8,000 members, recommending the "Miracles of the Passion" production.

    "I've participated in his effort to produce Miracles of the Passion. Through targeting a mass audience, I believe it to be a tool that will advance the truth of the Gospel and the testimony of Jesus."

    S&T:

    Isn't four squre the denomation that was started by Aimee Semple McPherson? My discernment buzzers are ringing loudly.

    [ March 29, 2004, 10:32 AM: Message edited by: Spirit and Truth ]
     
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    Now, are you sure you never saw Charleton Hesston play Moses, or John the Baptizer ;) prior to 1991? </font>[/QUOTE]LOL, I did, even saw Jesus of Nazareth several times, when growing up my mom was big on these types of movies. Never saw a thing in a movie that changed my life in anyway.

    Emotionalism while meaninful at the moment does not change a life, I cried when spot in My Dog Spot died, I cry watching Spit Fire Grill,I even cried when Data died in the Star Trek NG movie, other movies excite rather then sadden, but I've never had one change my life.
     
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    My life changed when I was 9 years old. And I know a lot of people whose life change after viewing the movie. [​IMG]
     
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    I will be unimpressed by any changes which are so soon reported without the time necessary to discern whether they are of any lasting nature.
    A documentary in a year or so would be a little more convincing.
     
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    Agree with Loren
     
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    I think it is much like the 9/11 attack. Many saught out God, but few found Him. I only hope and pray that even 1/10th of the people who claim that it changed them have found, or will find, the true God through the experience.
    I know it has opened the door for me to share the Gospel at work with many who I doubt I would have had the opporunity with previously. Of course, they all know that I am a Baptist preacher.
     
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    Let's remember that it's the Holy Spirit that draws a person to God... not ANY movie, book, or other event. Give credit where credit is due.

    Conversions (real or otherwise) don't prove the The Passion movie is good ... no more than 9/11 was good because of the filled churches in the weeks following.

    The Spirit convicts us of our sin ... anything else is bogus.
     
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    Glorybound, you've a point. And I give all credit to God for saving people. [​IMG]
     
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    People are apparently giving the credit to Mel Gibson. After all we now have 3 of these threads glorifying him, his 30 million $$, and his movie.
     
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    It's funny how so many are bowing down to mel and his movie and he thinks his non catholic supporters are not christians and going to hell.

    'she believes that stuff'
    what stuff???
    what, , prayer, believeing in God, knowing Jesus?
    so these are nothing more then stuff to mel. apparently he doesn't beleive in the same 'stuff' she does.
     
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    I am wondering, if such great miracles have been happening, why do we need a website to report them? I figure if lives are being changed that dramatically and in such great numbers, shouldn't we already be able to see some evidence from it around us?

    I have talked to several people who cried and said this movie changed or touched their lives, but I have seen no proof whatsover. They seem the same to me. They certainly don't show the spirit of Christ when you tell them you didn't like the movie.

    When Jesus and the Apostles preformed a miracle, there was no doubt left in anyone's mind. It was a provable, immediate miracle observable by all.

    Many things can change a person's life, a person entering into Islam will have their "life changed." That doesn't mean they are saved. The question should be, did they meet the Jesus Christ taught about in the Bible while viewing this film? If not, the rest doesn't matter. A changed life without Christ is hardly something to get excited about.

    ~Lorelei
     
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    Lorelei:

    Many things can change a person's life, a person entering into Islam will have their "life changed." That doesn't mean they are saved. The question should be, did they meet the Jesus Christ taught about in the Bible while viewing this film? If not, the rest doesn't matter. A changed life without Christ is hardly something to get excited about.

    S&T:

    And that is it exactly.....
     
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    AMEN! Lorelei [​IMG]

    I hadn't thought about it, but many things can change a persons life, how they look at it, how they precienve it, or just plain how they feel about living it. That does not mean anything about Jesus. It does not mean salvation. God changes lives through salvation, and salvation alone, when God changes a person it is because of thier salvation. It doesn't matter how many claim changed lives, or ho many confess what, if they haven't been saved what does it matter? Without salvation it only proves it is not from God. No change a person tries to make in their life can be perment without true salvation, it is a man made change, it will not last. I wonder in 6 months or a year how many of these people who have been 'changed' will continue in that 'changed life'? Less God changes the heart and renews the mind there can be no perment change, and without salvation He does not do this work on those going to hell, but only in His people.
     
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    Dear Lorelei,
    I agree with you that a changed heart does show up in a changed life. But sometimes that changed life is a maturation process, and is not all visible immediately to casual acquaintances.

    The structure of many of our lives now is against knowing of these immediate or long-term changes. For example, when I had little kids and they were sick, we were house-bound for days. People could change all around me, and I wouldn't have seen it. Today, I haven't felt the best and other than a quick trip to the grocery store and then church tonight, I won't be around people.
    And sometimes the changed life is in what a person DOESN'T do that he was going to do.

    There was an interesting thread recently about how for many people, they only see people they know when they go to church and work. People don't interact at the same table at the same restaurant or the same teller at the same bank window or the same shop downtown like they used to. People are around lots of others, but they don't know them. (In some towns, going to Walmart is an exception.) ;)
    My point remaining that lots of change can occur and it would be invisible to us.

    Karen
     
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    All changes God makes in us start in the heart, but they always reveal themselves in our lives through our actions, things we talk about, how we live. God works on us to mature us, yes, and that takes times, yes(the rest of our lives), but the changes will be evident immediately, even thought more changes will be done. God wants others to see the changes in us because they(the changes) give witness to Him and His power.
     

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