Passive Occupy protesters take pepper spray blast

So, some in lower Manhattan do wrong, so it gives the police department the right to pepper spray other protesters.

Why don't you just admit that you don't care what the police department do to these protesters because you don't agree with what they are protesting.

Several years ago our church was involved in many abortion protests here in Houston. I'm certainly glad the police department here didn't resort to these types of tactics.

 

You posted the back-pedaling comment after I mentioned that I had never said what you indicated that I said; thus, my seeking clarification for what you were posting the comment about.

Nope, I'm not back-pedaling at all. Show where I've said that the police or military would never violate the people's freedoms or rights.

 

You bring up an interesting question: why didn't they resort to those types of tactics?

 

I don't know who is right and who is wrong, but I'm very glad to see young people passionate and willing to stand up to authority for their beliefs. I thought this had been brainwashed out of most young people. Happily, I'm wrong.

 

That's not what I took offense to, as I re-stated in this thread.

BTW: you keep coming back to "the military is going to move against the public"; that's only partially correct. It won't be the military in charge of such a situation, only used for such a situation.

 

No, I bet I have the largest ignore list on the board.

Four? Can't speak for the others but I've got Bro. Curtis beat!

 

You tell me. There were a couple of arrests during this time. Everyone didn't do exactly what the police said, but no one was pepper sprayed.

 

I heard you espousing it in a thread a month or two ago.

Like shooting at a speeding automobile that is approaching the checkpoint of a military base. Shooting first and asking questions later was the approach you favored in that circumstance. Now I see you are changing your tune.

 

And yet again, you speak out of both sides of your mouth.

There was a conversation some months ago where I and others tried to impress upon you that questioning orders was not only a good thing, but a duty and a responsibility; your response at the time was that a troop couldn't be guilty for following orders.

Then there's the conversation that Targus references, where you advocate snipers shooting civilians; one has to wonder how you would respond if one of those snipers refused to follow orders.

And now you bring up that the military would be to blame for following orders.

You're just a bundle of self-contradictions, aren't you?

 

So--either the people you were with didn't behave the same way, or the police in your area are different for some reason, or something else?

 

First, Mrs. Moore isn't in question here. Second, I have yet to find anything that contradicts the Army using taxi drivers; because, as you pointed out, they weren't prepared. Third, the point is not about the use of taxi drivers, but a man doing a job that wore at his soul--but had to be done.

I, too, have had to deal with death while on active duty; albeit, not the same circumstances nor to the same extent as you.

No; what I'm saying is, when you wore a badge, what would you have told the chancellor that requested you to remove a safety hazard? If your shift supervisor made the call to respond, what would you tell him/her? Why don't all policemen think the same? Why does one policeman shoot, and another doesn't?

Let's not forget a certain point: these were campus police.

 

You know, Tom, I have to ask: 1963 and 1965 were about civil rights and unjust laws. Peter and the apostles were about salvation. How are these similar to what's happening today?