Petraeus speaks on Benghazi

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  1. mont974x4

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    Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”


    So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

    It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/petraeus-throws-obama-under-bus_657896.html
     
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    Absolutely right. This was a presidential decision. Obama let them be murdered. And the mainstream media keeps it covered up. How different from Watergate and nobody was killed during Watergate. The corruption in our "free press" and the Oval Office is unmeasurable. :tear:
     
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    How utterly ridiculous. By trying to make political points off of a terrorist attack is a disgusting and unprecedented ploy by the GOP. It was an act by evil men, and to blame the President is unAmerican and vile.
     
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    I thought this was a nice assessment of what is happening at this point. We had a very sad disaster that happened to our ambassador in Libya, along with those protecting him. The administration is blaming the intelligence community for bad intel. As a result, those in the intelligence community are fighting back.

    Hopfully in the end we will find out what went wrong.

    "The Benghazi Story Refuses To Die, And It’s Hurting The President"

    http://blogs.the-american-interest....refuses-to-die-and-its-hurting-the-president/

    snippet:

    I also thought military writer Bing West had an interesting time line. I didn't realize that the attacks lasted for 7 hours, and special forces could have been there to help quickly.

    &

    "More Evidence of the Administration’s Failure in Benghazi"

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2...e-of-the-administrations-failure-in-benghazi/

    excerpt from Max Boot's article:

     
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    B, what you posted is exactly right. There are no political points here, just the failure of a President, and the President is the ONLY ONE who can make the call. The call for support, rescue, help, etc., is made by the DOD ONLY after the President gives the order, which obama did not. What is vile is to watch our Americans being murdered and our American property being torched in real time and to sit back and do nothing, NOTHING, and then go off to a fund raiser in Las Vegas only a few hours later, and then days later send the ambassador to the UN out on 5 talk shows with LIES, when obama knew the truth and saw it all go down. Sickening. Treason.
     
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    ...Said the poster with the Obama/Biden bumper sticker signature.
     
  7. mont974x4

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    There are reports that Obama was in the room and watching it happen. A
    demand for justice and accountability is not an attempt to score points.

    What is sickening is Obama supporters not being angry and actually defending him. I expect more from my president.
     
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    AMEN AND AMEN!

    People have Obama's track record in front of them.

    For example, he promised that he would not raise taxes on those making less than $250,000.

    In case some may have forgotten, here's some of his first 100 days in office.
    http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/obama100.htm

    And, don't forget that on January 21, 2009:

    Obama's first act as President EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489 banning release of any of his records.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304500/posts

    And, now this......:BangHead:
     
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    That is the same feigning Obama has tried. He hasn't gotten anywhere with his facade neither.
     
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    And this again highlights the acrimony that some of you have against this man. You continue to make these unrighteous judgments about everything because there's something inside you that's very bitter against him.

    It doesn't matter if you've got proof or not of anything.

    This is why folks are starting to say there is something else at play here with some of yall when it comes to Obama.

    You've got the same proof that this was a Presidential decision that folks have that Romney wears magic underwear. Pure speculation based on dislike of this man.

    A lot of folks would like to get to the bottom of this. But claiming it was a Presidential decision to withhold security doesn't make it the truth.
     
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    And now you have convinced who? And by the way Romney most likely wears the special under garments of the Mormons. The term "magic underwear" is pejorative but does not change the rituals of Mormons.
     
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    Unrighteous judgments? You've got a lot of room to talk about unrighteous judgments, when post after post of yours rails on the members of this board. My judgment on this man is based on his LIES, not just on this, but on many things. He continually lies to the American people. Nixon and Clinton were impeached for it.

    We do have proof - emails that were sent all over the place. Maybe you should get up to speed on the latest news. The lengths you will go to in defending this evil man are incredible, IMO.

    Yes, it's called racism against us. It's called class warfare against people who are working and don't want to be part of the obama nanny state. It's called obama's radical friends and studying at the knee of Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers and Frank Davis, and the Chicago thuggery way he does business. It's called crony capitalism, they way he funneled our tax dollars by the billions into his campaign donors as pay back. It's called having a president by his own lips who called me "his enemy" and told his supporters to "bring a gun to the fight." It's called sucking a baby's brains out while that baby is in the womb and if an abortion fails, leaving that infant to die on a heap of laundry. It's called toking and smoking and grinding cigarette butts out on college campus carpets (his own words, read his books). It's called bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia and having a big homosexual party at the White House.....oh, I could go on and on. He sickens me. This is just the latest chapter in the sewer.

    Baloney.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact. The Buck stops with the CIC. It is the CIC who makes the call. It was the WH that sent the UN Ambassador out to 5 different Sunday shows to LIE and say this was not a terrorist attack on 09/11, that it was a video and it was a "spontaneous demonstration." The truth is leaking out, email by email, by people who don't want to be the fall guy for this disgusting phoney any longer.


    http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-linked-to-benghazi-attack/


    Hey, you can bet your sweet smile that if one of obama's daughters had been in Benghazi, C-130 gun ships, F16s and everything else would have been on scene high priority.

    Furthermore, Ty Woods had his laser on the mortars and probably wondered when help was coming. Per the father of Ty Woods:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...hazi-Slams-Obama-Admin-Pack-of-Lies-Murderers
     
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    Yet you STILL don't have any proof that it was a Presidential decision but make the statement as though it's absolute truth.

    Yeah, there's more at work here than just a simple dislike of some policies.


    The present the emails that show it was a Presidential decision not to send the help in. Since you're up to speed, give the proof.


    Now where's your proof that the Benghazi debacle was the result of a Presidential decision?



    Yes, that's what your unfounded claim is.



    You stating it's a fact just cause you clearly don't like the man doesn't make it a fact. :laugh: Show the proof that says the President decided to not send in added security since it's so factual.
     
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    I am not talking about "added security." You are mixing the event with preparations. I showed you that the murders happened because the CIC did not make the call to assist our people on 09/11. If you know anything at all about how our government works, the CIC is the one who makes the call. The generals don't. The DOD doesn't. The Secretary of State doesn't. The VP doesn't. The UN doesn't. The Congress doesn't. The Commander in Chief makes the call. The DOD follows his orders. Same with the CIA. Obama saw it unfold in the Situation Room in real time via 2 drones. He got the emails. The Situation Room heard the voices, heard the sounds, real time. The attack lasted for approximately 7 hours on American soil on Americans. It was Obama's place to give the order. He didn't. The buck stops with him. End of story.
     
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    Aside from being an Obama troll I believe it is highly possible that this person is associated directly to the DNC at some level in which many of them are being sent out among the internet to try to place doubts about Romney. It is highly likely that Obama's campaign would use this method and this posters inconsistencies make to possibility very real. Responding to this person only feeds the drive to continue their behavior. There is certainly no sincerity from this person.
     
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    Obama Watched Benghazi Attack From 'Situation Room'

    Lt. Col. Tony Schafer told Fox News that sources were telling him that the President was watching the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya in real-time. Schafer told Fox that "only the President" could have ordered backup for the Americans who were under siege by terrorists so the President was most certainly informed of the situation as it was unfolding. "I hate to say this," Schafer said, "according to my sources, yes, [the President] was one of those in the White House situation room in real-time watching this. And the question becomes, 'What did the President do or not do in the moments he saw this unveiling?' He -- only he -- could issue a directive to Secretary of Defense Panetta to do something."

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...a-Watched-Benghazi-Attack-From-Situation-Room
     
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    Your supposition about how the CIC works isn't proof.

    Where's your proof that he told them not to send in more security?

    And one would think if all this is going on as you describe, there are folks in the room who could advise him as to what to do. So if they know he could have intervened and didn't, present the sources that say so.

    Stop with all the "my sources say" and present the evidence that he was watching in real time.

    Until then, all this is still just speculation and will be seen as sour grapes by folks who have a political axe to grind. Speculation ain't facts.
     
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    And stupidity is not logic. You have no idea how government works, never served one day, and really, to be honest, have no knowledge of political science, despite your heart's desire for liberalism.
     
  19. mont974x4

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    The way some people talk about it they clearly think that this all happened as a total surprise and there was no time to plan and respond. That is hogwash. There are always plans designed and ready. You get your reports on the situation and you pick one "off the shelf" and get to work. You also have plans b and c ready because situations are in flux. Military leaders plan in advance how to respond in the event of as many situations as possible. There are assets pre-arranged.

    There is no excuse for the failure to respond.
     
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    You seem to have a hard time defining terms. Up to this point, I have been a false god worshipper. Now I am an Obamahater. So which is it? Or am I a false Obamahater worshipper?
     
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