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Plans to condemn Southern Baptist church; eminent domain

Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by Monergist, Mar 15, 2006.

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  1. Monergist

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    #1 Monergist, Mar 15, 2006
  2. Baptist in Richmond

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    Seems to me that a Republican-dominated Congress has the power to enact laws to stop this........

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    #2 Baptist in Richmond, Mar 15, 2006
  3. Monergist

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    Its more profitable for the Republican dominated Congress to talk a big game about these things than it is to actually do something to stop them...
     
    #3 Monergist, Mar 15, 2006
  4. Squire Robertsson

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    They did enact a law:
    The Federal Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000.

    It's a fairly broad law. So, the city of Long Beach is in for a some rough times want to push this matter. A good lawyer (and it looks like Filipino Baptist has some) can tie Long Beach up in knots in Federal Court with FeRelLuIPA. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt (and it's not even a rag yet)
     
    #4 Squire Robertsson, Mar 15, 2006
  5. rsr

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    Actually, it's up to the state legislatures, not the Congress, because most of the condemnations are at the local level.
     
    #5 rsr, Mar 15, 2006
  6. Squire Robertsson

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    And the State legislatures have been falling all over themselves to close the biggest loopholes. Like I wrote earlier, under current Federal law, Long Beach looks to have bitten off more than it can chew.
     
    #6 Squire Robertsson, Mar 15, 2006
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    Where are they at? Wasn't it them who started the ball rolling?
     
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  8. Ben W

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    Baptists and other Christians in the area should put forward several candidates at the next Council election, and give them a taste of their own medicine!
     
    #8 Ben W, Mar 15, 2006
  9. Squire Robertsson

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    What part of The Federal Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000 don't you understand? Congress passed the law y'all want six years ago. Why do we need a new one? That and Congress, with the Rhode Island eminent domain case in mind, has tightened up what kind of projects Federal funds can be spent on. The thing to do now is to see how this works through the Courts.
    Where are they at? Wasn't it them who started the ball rolling?</font>[/QUOTE]
     
    #9 Squire Robertsson, Mar 15, 2006
  10. rbell

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    But, since we're dealing with California, home of the 9th circuit, I don't think US laws apply anymore... :(
     
    #10 rbell, Mar 15, 2006
  11. Rob't K. Fall

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    In the case, I was involved in the Federal Court gently nudged the city of Sacramento for their failure to comply with the law cited by the Squire. The city saw the handwriting on the wall and began serious negoiations.
     
    #11 Rob't K. Fall, Mar 15, 2006
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    It was only a matter of time.

    We can thank the liberals on the Supreme Court for this gift.

    With the current makeup of the Supreme Court, it is doubtful that this issue will fare as well as the first...if it gets that far.
     
    #12 carpro, Mar 15, 2006
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    wait...wern't our two new justices going to do something about that?
     
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  14. Squire Robertsson

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    Yes, but a case has to make its way up to that level. This one hasn't even made it to district court,
     
    #14 Squire Robertsson, Mar 15, 2006
  15. Baptist in Richmond

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    Yep, that's pretty similar to what Rush Limbaugh has said...

    There aren't enough "LIBERALS" on the Supreme Court to comprise a majority. I would like to think that you knew that......

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    "Stevens was joined in the majority by three other liberal justices, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, and by Anthony Kennedy, a moderate conservative who is often a swing vote. Kennedy also filed a concurring opinion suggesting that some condemnations of private property might be unconstitutional if there is "the risk of undetected impermissible favoritism of private parties" by the body exercising eminent domain."

    As I said, we can thank the liberals for allowing that travesty of justice.
     
    #16 carpro, Mar 16, 2006
  17. Baptist in Richmond

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    Who nominated Souter and Kennedy?
    Former President Clinton nominated Ginsburg, but who claims to have been the one who recommended her to him?
     
    #17 Baptist in Richmond, Mar 16, 2006
  18. Bro. James Reed

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    Doesn't matter who nominated them. The fact that they are liberal still stands. I would think that even you would agree that these 5 justices, and 4 of them for sure, are usually pretty liberal.

    The current make-up of the court does not change how the vote on this ruling would turn out. O'Connor and Rehnquist both voted on the losing side, with Kelo, in the eminent domain case. Those votes would more than likely stay the same with the new justices, still leaving us with a 5-4 vote against property rights.

    Either Souter, Ginsburg, Kennedy, Stevens, or Breyer need to leave the court and be replaced by a real conservative in order for the court to flip on major issues. Stevens, the most liberal, imo, will probably be the next to go.
     
    #18 Bro. James Reed, Mar 16, 2006
  19. Baptist in Richmond

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    I would say that Souter and Kennedy are moderate, not liberal.

    STRONGLY disagree with you on that one......

    Regards,
    BiR
     
    #19 Baptist in Richmond, Mar 16, 2006
  20. Bro. James Reed

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    Care to elaborate, BiR?
     
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